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Old 10-18-2024 | 10:09 AM
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Boeing is a mess. Strikes, layoffs, financial woes, management chaos, the list goes on. But most of all a new airplane being delivered no where in sight. We were supposed to be getting a new plane every other day. Boeing is losing a billion a month and Emirates is about to pull the plug on its 777x order. Boeing was the wrong horse to bet on.
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Old 10-18-2024 | 10:44 AM
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Old 10-18-2024 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Boeing is a mess. Strikes, layoffs, financial woes, management chaos, the list goes on. But most of all a new airplane being delivered no where in sight. We were supposed to be getting a new plane every other day. Boeing is losing a billion a month and Emirates is about to pull the plug on its 777x order. Boeing was the wrong horse to bet on.
Uh, have you met Airbus? Or P&W and its GTF?
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Old 10-18-2024 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Boeing is a mess. Strikes, layoffs, financial woes, management chaos, the list goes on. But most of all a new airplane being delivered no where in sight. We were supposed to be getting a new plane every other day. Boeing is losing a billion a month and Emirates is about to pull the plug on its 777x order. Boeing was the wrong horse to bet on.
By "we" do you mean the company you work for?
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Old 10-18-2024 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Boeing is a mess. Strikes, layoffs, financial woes, management chaos, the list goes on. But most of all a new airplane being delivered no where in sight. We were supposed to be getting a new plane every other day. Boeing is losing a billion a month and Emirates is about to pull the plug on its 777x order. Boeing was the wrong horse to bet on.
I hate to let facts get in the way of a rant, but Boeing is still delivering new aircraft.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/boei...september.html

"Boeing delivered 33 airplanes in September, six more than during the same period a year earlier, as the company and its customers keep an eye on the impact of a machinist strike, now in its fourth week...September deliveries also included four 787 Dreamliner planes, which are made in Boeing’s nonunion factory in South Carolina. For the month, Boeing logged 66 gross orders for new aircraft."
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Old 10-18-2024 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueScholar
I hate to let facts get in the way of a rant, but Boeing is still delivering new aircraft.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/boei...september.html

"Boeing delivered 33 airplanes in September, six more than during the same period a year earlier, as the company and its customers keep an eye on the impact of a machinist strike, now in its fourth week...September deliveries also included four 787 Dreamliner planes, which are made in Boeing’s nonunion factory in South Carolina. For the month, Boeing logged 66 gross orders for new aircraft."
Anyone know what the hang up is for the machinists strike? Supposedly they got the raise they were asking for, rumor is they want a seat back on the BOD but I can’t confirm. Sure would’ve saved them a few dozen billion the last few years if true…
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Old 10-18-2024 | 04:22 PM
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Anyone know what the hang up is for the machinists strike? Supposedly they got the raise they were asking for, rumor is they want a seat back on the BOD but I can’t confirm. Sure would’ve saved them a few dozen billion the last few years if true…
AFAIK it was the pension and benefits part that they disagree on, not pay rates.
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Old 10-18-2024 | 05:20 PM
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Old 10-19-2024 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Anyone know what the hang up is for the machinists strike? Supposedly they got the raise they were asking for, rumor is they want a seat back on the BOD but I can’t confirm. Sure would’ve saved them a few dozen billion the last few years if true…
you can google this.. they wanted a 40% raise and Boeing offered 25% over 4 years, and it takes away their annual bonus.. which isn’t a raise at all then. They lost their pension in 2016 as well.. and much more

https://labornotes.org/2024/09/boein...0newer%20hires.
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Old 10-19-2024 | 05:19 AM
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The Boeing's promise to make the next airplane in Seattle is also empty as it is only good for four years. It is doubtful Boeing will be making any new models in the next four years.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-...uture-conflict

Here is a good recap of how it got to this ugly point at Boeing. As we say, companies get the unions they deserve.

https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/...=1000670072184
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