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maxru 11-05-2024 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3850214)
This was a while back and he had made his slot available. I'm sure that it has been picked up by now, but that is only because hiring has slowed significantly and captain is going more senior. If we were still hiring at ludicrous speed I'm sure that he would have been stuck with his award. We've hired plenty of high time pilots such as ULCC captains who will do just fine with quick upgrades, but we've also hired plenty of people that we would have never considered prior to the pandemic. Wanting to bid captain is one thing, but forced upgrades regardless of if it's at the regionals or legacies is a bad idea. I'm hoping that future growth happens at a level where captain vacancies only go to those who feel ready and bid it.

So, to reiterate, no one is being forced into left seat at this time. Got it.
thanks for keeping up the fallacy

Turbosina 11-05-2024 08:55 AM

Yup, the most junior CA award on this last bid was an 11K number, which is... about a 2019 hire? Not actually sure, but 11K is roughly 73 pct company wide. As stated, not a single CA at UAL went to upgrade training against their will. Judging by what's happened with CA vacancies these last few bids, it's highly highly unlikely that we'll ever see actual forced upgrades..

hamsandwich 11-05-2024 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3850226)
Yup, the most junior CA award on this last bid was an 11K number, which is... about a 2019 hire? Not actually sure, but 11K is roughly 73 pct company wide. As stated, not a single CA at UAL went to upgrade training against their will. Judging by what's happened with CA vacancies these last few bids, it's highly highly unlikely that we'll ever see actual forced upgrades..

11k would be a 2021 hire.

60av8tor 11-05-2024 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3850226)
Yup, the most junior CA award on this last bid was an 11K number, which is... about a 2019 hire? Not actually sure, but 11K is roughly 73 pct company wide. As stated, not a single CA at UAL went to upgrade training against their will. Judging by what's happened with CA vacancies these last few bids, it's highly highly unlikely that we'll ever see actual forced upgrades..

11k is '21 around the time hiring began again

Broncofan 11-05-2024 10:49 AM

Heard a rumor that once starlink becomes available, they are working on allowing FaceTime with dispatch.

ugleeual 11-05-2024 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3850253)
Heard a rumor that once starlink becomes available, they are working on allowing FaceTime with dispatch.

heard from LHR van driver that they are adding some basic surgical equipment in the med bags… FAs will be able to do minor emergency surgery like tracheostomy with med link doctor video oversight. Can’t wait for starlink!!!

Swakid8 11-05-2024 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3850214)
This was a while back and he had made his slot available. I'm sure that it has been picked up by now, but that is only because hiring has slowed significantly and captain is going more senior. If we were still hiring at ludicrous speed I'm sure that he would have been stuck with his award. We've hired plenty of high time pilots such as ULCC captains who will do just fine with quick upgrades, but we've also hired plenty of people that we would have never considered prior to the pandemic. Wanting to bid captain is one thing, but forced upgrades regardless of if it's at the regionals or legacies is a bad idea. I'm hoping that future growth happens at a level where captain vacancies only go to those who feel ready and bid it.

I not disagreeing with any of your points, just so that we are on the same page..

Swakid8 11-05-2024 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3850253)
Heard a rumor that once starlink becomes available, they are working on allowing FaceTime with dispatch.

How we just stop f-ing around and trying to find out and just install Satcom across the fleet.. Let's put a end to this HF position reporting by voice.... lol

KnightNight 11-05-2024 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3850270)
How we just stop f-ing around and trying to find out and just install Satcom across the fleet.. Let's put a end to this HF position reporting by voice.... lol

But that’s most of what I do….at work

Hedley 11-05-2024 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by maxru (Post 3850218)
So, to reiterate, no one is being forced into left seat at this time. Got it.
thanks for keeping up the fallacy

No one is currently being forced to upgrade and it is only a fallacy today because hiring as slowed significantly. If hiring had continued at the previous rate, these people would have been forced into upgrade. I'm grateful that it isn't happening right now, but it is a big fault in this contract. Hopefully hiring remains at a reduced level where this doesn't become an issue again. Between Boeing and Airbus delivery delays, I don't see that being a problem any time soon.


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