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Sure, on the Schwab PRAP website and app there is a contribution section. The options are for both pre-tax (to $23.5k in 2025) and post-tax ($23.5-70k in 2025), and a dollar amount or percentage of pay for each. Setting them both to 100% makes as much of your paycheck as possible go to the 401k. The pre-tax bucket is filled first, then the post-tax bucket is started and is filled until the total reaches $70k (more if over 50).
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I’m surprised that anyone uses the supplemental considering how crappy it is. Maybe the AHRA makes it worthwhile? In general, tricare supplementals for retirees are only good if you are within about 1k of the cap. I have no idea what the reservist plans cost, though.
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so in your case, the advantage of maximizing early is to spill on the HRA that I'm assume is tax free? Or what's the difference or disadvantage if you let the company maximize your 401k, and you save the 23k on your bank account and use it for medical bills if needed?
thanks for your time and wisdom.
thanks for your time and wisdom.
The maximum the company can contribute will not max out the 401k. For 2024, the maximum eligible compensation limit is $345,000. 17% of that is $58,650 below the 401k cap for both under 50 and over 50. In order to maximize it, an employee would have to put in something. How much will depend on whether the pilot wants to have spill or not into the Active HRA or RHA.
I'm over 50, so it's actually $30,500 for me this year ($31,000 in 2025). By putting the money in now while I'm in my prime earning years in the highest tax brackets I will be, I save income taxes on $30,000+ per year. I wil pay taxes on that money in retirement when I'm certainly not going to be making the money I make now and I'll be in a lower tax bracket. And this money has the opportunity to grow before retirement. If I decided to have this as take home pay, with federal and my local taxes that will turn into less than $20,000. Putting that into a basic savings or money market account will not come close to off setting the taxes on that, plus I have very few health care expenses at all.
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I'm over 50, so it's actually $30,500 for me this year ($31,000 in 2025). By putting the money in now while I'm in my prime earning years in the highest tax brackets I will be, I save income taxes on $30,000+ per year. I wil pay taxes on that money in retirement when I'm certainly not going to be making the money I make now and I'll be in a lower tax bracket. And this money has the opportunity to grow before retirement. If I decided to have this as take home pay, with federal and my local taxes that will turn into less than $20,000. Putting that into a basic savings or money market account will not come close to off setting the taxes on that, plus I have very few health care expenses at all.
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It's not always that simple though. Our youngsters are more often than not better off putting their money in as Roth and taking the tax hit now. 20-30 years of growth tax free more often than not offsets the initial tax hit. Everyone should do your research or spend the $ to get advice on it. When you start getting close to retirement and see how much tax you're going to pay when you do start withdrawing (and the Medicare increase you'll pay) it can be eye opening lol. But these are 1st world problems thankfully.
As someone who was fortunate enough to get hired with the potential of just under 30 earning years, I make Roth contributions to hopefully limit RMDs in retirement to only the company contributions, limiting my future tax liabilities. Obviously you could take this a step further and do a Roth conversion on company contributions to have virtually zero tax liabilities in retirement, however I enjoy spending money on enjoying life now instead of writing a big check to uncle sam every year for the tax bill on the conversion.
Everyone’s situation is different and again it depends on guessing what you think will happen with tax codes in the future, but just wanted to throw another scenario out there.
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Also depends very much where you currently reside and where you intend to be in retirement.
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It's not always that simple though. Our youngsters are more often than not better off putting their money in as Roth and taking the tax hit now. 20-30 years of growth tax free more often than not offsets the initial tax hit. Everyone should do your research or spend the $ to get advice on it. When you start getting close to retirement and see how much tax you're going to pay when you do start withdrawing (and the Medicare increase you'll pay) it can be eye opening lol. But these are 1st world problems thankfully.
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