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Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3861564)

The latter and former scenarios happening concurrently are about as likely as SFO-Pyongyang in the 787.

Especially since that is going to be a BOOM city. Be sure to tip your waitress. I'll show myself out. 😂

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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator (Post 3861625)

Possibly true, but Smisek was very susceptible to the mantra of Wall Street. Don’t kid yourself, if he wasn’t fired he wouldn’t have pushed us down that path. He was on record numerous times as anti DEN and LAX. He gave up CAL’s old gates in terminal 6 (LAX) right after the merger. Kirby wouldn’t have loved those gates in LAX today just like the the gates Smisek gave up in JFK.

I agree we were going nowhere with Smisek and he indeed gave away gates at LAX and slots at JFK. Munoz watched and I assume voted to approve those moves on the BOD. Kirby coming not Munoz was what stopped the idiotic shrink to profitability crap. Munoz hired Haywood knowing about her ideas dehubbing IAD, DEN and/or LAX. Munoz didn't know enough about the airline biz to understand it was a stupid idea. We are incredibly lucky that Kirby became available two weeks later.

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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator (Post 3861549)

Actually they were very close to closing DEN, LAX & IAD under the end of Smisek’s tenure

A paraphrase, but some thing like;

"airplanes now have coast to coast range, hubs in the middle of the country aren't needed anymore"

-Jeff SmugSack-

(Except for IAH/ORD)

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Originally Posted by lowaltitude (Post 3859075)

I have seen this post over and over again but it’s my turn to ask.

Currently at Southwest at 30 years old. Just about to start my third year here. Currently living in base (DEN). My QoL is alright here, my base seniority has been pretty stagnant and due to personal reasons I don’t have the opportunity to pickup and trade as much as other people. I have enjoyed the culture here but I always planned on this being a temporary stop for me.

I have been waiting in United CJO pool for months. I got my CJO in March and finally got a class date in January. I have been very eager to come over to United however waiting 10 months has really made me question if this is worth the jump. I would like to do wide bodies and being in Denver the TK isn’t out of question for me. I know a lot of opportunities out of new hire have passed (WBFO and NBCA) and I am worried I’m behind the curve there.

Is it still a good decision to come over to UA?

Only you can make this decision and you won't know what the answer is until years after you make the decision.

I made the jump years ago. At first I regretted the decision, some things aren't so good and the culture definitely has areas that can be improved (unlikely to change, in my opinion).

Then COVID happened and I realized what a terrible decision I made to make the jump.

SInce then I've been pleasantly surprised. Just finished the best year of my career.

Is it still a good decision to make the jump? Yes AND No. Wherever you are you will need to take the good with the bad.

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Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3861653)

A paraphrase, but some thing like;

"airplanes now have coast to coast range, hubs in the middle of the country aren't needed anymore"

-Jeff SmugSack-

(Except for IAH/ORD)

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Originally Posted by worstpilotever (Post 3862602)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffery-smisek-06a758157/

What a dǔche that guy was. I do remember him saying very similar words to what you paraphrased. Seeing what DEN has grown into now......yeah he was wrong...,Thank God he was forced to resign.

In a related story the very thing that made him resign (using a money losing flight to Columbia,Sc for quid pro quo to have PANYNJ extend the PATH train to EWR)
......was actually a good idea and would have benefited thousands of travelers and employees alike. Is now an idea being thrown around North Jersey political and civic circles. Oh the Irony.

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Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3862886)

What a dǔche that guy was. I do remember him saying very similar words to what you paraphrased.

"This meger is goung forward, with or WITHOUT labor."

Seeing what DEN has grown into now......yeah he was wrong...,Thank God he was forced to resign.

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Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3862886)

In a related story the very thing that made him resign (using a money losing flight to Columbia,Sc

I'll bet Bill Murray loved that flight.

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Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3862886)

On another note. The fact that the path train does not go all the way to EWR is insane…

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Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3862886)

What a dǔche that guy was. I do remember him saying very similar words to what you paraphrased. Seeing what DEN has grown into now......yeah he was wrong...,Thank God he was forced to resign.

I remember hearing stories of him having to walk around the terminals with a security detail. It wasn't because of labor, but because of the passengers. When they recognized it was Count Chocula from the safety video, they laid into him!

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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator (Post 3859832)

A 30 year old at the very bottom of our seniority list hired in June (most recent seniority list updated July 1) retires at about 950. So you’d probably be pretty close to 1000 when you retire which based on today’s seniority list will be about 6%.

how about a 36/37 year old?
5 years into Brown and I’m thinking about leaving, mostly just because I miss flying pax, layovers and being treated like an airline pilot and not an hourly.