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Dubiousbrother 03-14-2025 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 3893177)
Terrifying that they entrust you with an airplane and passengers.


Really?
see Dred Scott decision
Plessy V Ferguson
Korematsu V US

Turbosina 03-14-2025 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 3893177)
Terrifying that they entrust you with an airplane and passengers.

The individual in question is not a 121 pilot.

sailingfun 03-15-2025 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3893028)
you get these “facts” from The View hosts? Can you enlighten the rest of us with something concrete from an official government filing rather than the left wing propaganda?

Just Google it. There are hundreds of sources and no one refutes it because it's true.

Here is a quick summary of how often.
President Trump hit an important milestone as he returned to Florida over the Thanksgiving holiday: 100 visits to Mar-a-Lago. In 1,040 days as president, he has prioritized visiting his properties over the course of his presidency, making time for nearly 400 visits to the businesses that he still owns and profits from. Of all of his properties, it appears that Mar-a-Lago is his favorite to funnel untold sums of taxpayer money to, even rebranding Mar-a-Lago the “Winter White House.”

ERAUAV8TR 03-15-2025 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3893252)
Just Google it. There are hundreds of sources and no one refutes it because it's true.

Here is a quick summary of how often.
President Trump hit an important milestone as he returned to Florida over the Thanksgiving holiday: 100 visits to Mar-a-Lago. In 1,040 days as president, he has prioritized visiting his properties over the course of his presidency, making time for nearly 400 visits to the businesses that he still owns and profits from. Of all of his properties, it appears that Mar-a-Lago is his favorite to funnel untold sums of taxpayer money to, even rebranding Mar-a-Lago the “Winter White House.”

Maga are blind to the blatant corruption and incompetence. The doj is now all about revenge as American pride is dwindling. Globally we are laughed at and unliked. Rules of engagement and war are being rewritten as our government is dismantled and changed. Sad times to be an American.

UALinIAH 03-15-2025 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3893261)
Maga are blind to the blatant corruption and incompetence. The doj is now all about revenge as American pride is dwindling. Globally we are laughed at and unliked. Rules of engagement and war are being rewritten as our government is dismantled and changed. Sad times to be an American.

You need to give it a rest. He won. You're going to have a heart attack at this rate. Plus you come across as the pot calling the kettle black when you cry corruption after 4 years of cover up about Biden's mental state. Our party has 0 leadership atm and radicals like AOC and Warren have lost the American working class over stupid things like gender politics. We need a moderate leader to emerge so we can get back to what the Democratic Party used to stand for.

DogPit 03-15-2025 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3893261)
Maga are blind to the blatant corruption and incompetence. The doj is now all about revenge as American pride is dwindling. Globally we are laughed at and unliked. Rules of engagement and war are being rewritten as our government is dismantled and changed. Sad times to be an American.

You are so embarrassingly stupid it’s astonishing.

Midsomer 03-15-2025 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893275)
You are so embarrassingly stupid it’s astonishing.

The statements being made are not wrong. MAGA is cult that supports a Treasonous Orange Clown.

Who will be the first maga pilot to volunteer their teenage daughter to spend a weekend with the Tate brothers?

Logic and morals are lost on the MAGA crowd. They thump the Bible while ignoring its content.

UALinIAH 03-15-2025 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Midsomer (Post 3893283)
The statements being made are not wrong. MAGA is cult that supports a Treasonous Orange Clown.

Who will be the first maga pilot to volunteer their teenage daughter to spend a weekend with the Tate brothers?

Logic and morals are lost on the MAGA crowd. They thump the Bible while ignoring its content.

And the Democratic Party is somehow better right now? They'd allow my granddaughter to shower with biological men or try to compete with them in sports without being hurt? America needs a reset. I just hope this election has woken the people up to stop electing radical on both sides.

They tried running on a platform of selling nothing but "Trump is bad and we know what's best for you". How'd that work? James Carville tried to call this all out but the far left laughed at him.

jerryleber 03-15-2025 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3893287)
And the Democratic Party is somehow better right now?

"You need to give it a rest. He won. You're going to have a heart attack at this rate. Plus you come across as the pot calling the kettle black when you cry...."

tallpilot 03-15-2025 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3893287)
And the Democratic Party is somehow better right now? They'd allow my granddaughter to shower with biological men or try to compete with them in sports without being hurt? America needs a reset. I just hope this election has woken the people up to stop electing radical on both sides.

They tried running on a platform of selling nothing but "Trump is bad and we know what's best for you". How'd that work? James Carville tried to call this all out but the far left laughed at him.

The primary system in most states makes this difficult. In closed primaries the most radical wins, in open primaries the other side tries to vote for the most unelectable if they have a safe incumbent on their side. Nothing about the system encouages thoughtful debate, nuanced positions or an informed, critically thinking electorate. It's divide and conquer tribal warfare which has worked fairly well for the elite but not so much for the proverbial average Joe.

UALinIAH 03-15-2025 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3893299)
"You need to give it a rest. He won. You're going to have a heart attack at this rate. Plus you come across as the pot calling the kettle black when you cry...."

Jerry believe it or not we're on the same side. I'm a lifelong Dem but I hate what has happened to the party I support. Grew up the kid of a pipefitter (dad died of Mesothelioma from 30+ yr working at an Alcoa smelting plant). I just hate what is currently being peddlled I'm a southern Dem and happen to think Carville is right. Just be quiet and let the current administration wreck itself. Touting Trump is bad while peddling stuff 80% of America is against will never win national elections.

jerryleber 03-15-2025 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3893308)
Jerry believe it or not we're on the same side.

I do agree with your assessment, but I disagree with presuming to know posters' motivations much less their health status so I used your words to illustrate the point.

I am a lifelong Independent, but agree with your assessment that the Dems need to be more realistic in their assessment of their current powerlessness, "let the current administration wreck itself" and remind themselves that elections require getting the majority of the votes not pontificating from a high horse.

That said we cannot sit idly by while the Constitution is shredded. As usual in recent history Congress is impotent and the courts are the last line of defense. The mid-term elections are the key and the Senate races will be tough for the Dems.

DogPit 03-15-2025 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Midsomer (Post 3893283)
The statements being made are not wrong. MAGA is cult that supports a Treasonous Orange Clown.

Who will be the first maga pilot to volunteer their teenage daughter to spend a weekend with the Tate brothers?

Logic and morals are lost on the MAGA crowd. They thump the Bible while ignoring its content.

Look, the stupidest thing I'll read all week. Are you capable of an original thought?

DogPit 03-15-2025 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3893302)
The primary system in most states makes this difficult. In closed primaries the most radical wins, in open primaries the other side tries to vote for the most unelectable if they have a safe incumbent on their side. Nothing about the system encouages thoughtful debate, nuanced positions or an informed, critically thinking electorate. It's divide and conquer tribal warfare which has worked fairly well for the elite but not so much for the proverbial average Joe.

Would have been nice if the democrats actually held a primary and let the voters decide who to nominate.

jerryleber 03-15-2025 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893275)
You are so embarrassingly stupid it’s astonishing.


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893318)
Look, the stupidest thing I'll read all week. Are you capable of an original thought?

Are you familiar with psychological phenomena of projection?

DogPit 03-15-2025 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3893322)
Are you familiar with psychological phenomena of projection?

Someone get their feelings hurt?

jerryleber 03-15-2025 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893323)
Someone get their feelings hurt?

That's an excellent example. Very well done. Hilarious!

Peoplemvr 03-15-2025 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3893261)
Maga are blind to the blatant corruption and incompetence. The doj is now all about revenge as American pride is dwindling. Globally we are laughed at and unliked. Rules of engagement and war are being rewritten as our government is dismantled and changed. Sad times to be an American.


Screen name checks out.

ThumbsUp 03-15-2025 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3893252)
Just Google it. There are hundreds of sources and no one refutes it because it's true.

Here is a quick summary of how often.
President Trump hit an important milestone as he returned to Florida over the Thanksgiving holiday: 100 visits to Mar-a-Lago. In 1,040 days as president, he has prioritized visiting his properties over the course of his presidency, making time for nearly 400 visits to the businesses that he still owns and profits from. Of all of his properties, it appears that Mar-a-Lago is his favorite to funnel untold sums of taxpayer money to, even rebranding Mar-a-Lago the “Winter White House.”


No one refutes it, because it's probably true, but it's also not unique. Presidential travel is ungodly expensive, espcially overseas travel.

2StgTurbine 03-15-2025 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3893415)
Presidential travel Governing is ungodly expensive...

Running this country is expensive no matter who is in charge. We can all look at the numbers and claim it is wasteful, but it costs a bunch of money to provide safe a reliable working environments for humans who have to travel to perform their jobs. Just imagine if there is a forum full of airline passengers complaining about how much airlines spend on transportation and logding for a widebody crew overnighting in Paris for 30 hours.

ThumbsUp 03-15-2025 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3893420)
Running this country is expensive no matter who is in charge. We can all look at the numbers and claim it is wasteful, but it costs a bunch of money to provide safe a reliable working environments for humans who have to travel to perform their jobs. Just imagine if there is a forum full of airline passengers complaining about how much airlines spend on transportation and logding for a widebody crew overnighting in Paris for 30 hours.

yes. Filler

Extenda 03-15-2025 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3893415)
No one refutes it, because it's probably true, but it's also not unique. Presidential travel is ungodly expensive, espcially overseas travel.

the difference is current president made an enormous stink about prior president golfing, claimed he’d be working too hard to golf (all this trumpeted by his followers), then proceeded to golf at twice the rate of prior president, at his own clubs which charged the secret service god knows what to stay at. Not a peep from his ardent followers.

Sums up the current state of American politics. Whether a person is good or bad depends on the letter next to their name. All actions are irrelevant. They will be casually dismissed, “what about”ed, or just ignored and waived away, IF the letter next to the doer is the right letter.

ThumbsUp 03-15-2025 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3893451)
the difference is current president made an enormous stink about prior president golfing, claimed he’d be working too hard to golf (all this trumpeted by his followers), then proceeded to golf at twice the rate of prior president, at his own clubs which charged the secret service god knows what to stay at. Not a peep from his ardent followers.

Sums up the current state of American politics. Whether a person is good or bad depends on the letter next to their name. All actions are irrelevant. They will be casually dismissed, “what about”ed, or just ignored and waived away, IF the letter next to the doer is the right letter.

I doubt in whatever or wherever the Secret Service stays under one president is substantially different cost-wise from one to the next. I mean, they were paying $30k/month to rent a Malibu mansion to guard Hunter Biden. They’re not staying at Hampton Inns.


Extenda 03-15-2025 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3893471)
I doubt in whatever or wherever the Secret Service stays under one president is substantially different cost-wise from one to the next. I mean, they were paying $30k/month to rent a Malibu mansion to guard Hunter Biden. They’re not staying at Hampton Inns.

Would it have been an issue to you if Joe Biden had owned the Malibu mansion the SS was staying in?

ignoring the main points of my first paragraph kind of validates my second one.

ugleeual 03-15-2025 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3893475)
Would it have been an issue to you if Joe Biden had owned the Malibu mansion the SS was staying in?

ignoring the main points of my first paragraph kind of validates my second one.

U honestly worried about millions of $ paying for legit secret service protection when Uncle Joe allowed millions of illegal immigrants into the country over his term? Where are your posts highlighting these costs? Guess who’s paying for all the healthcare, housing and debit cards these illegals get? Hint… not them. Quit with the TDS and focus on things that matter.


SoFloFlyer 03-15-2025 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3893451)
the difference is current president made an enormous stink about prior president golfing, claimed he’d be working too hard to golf (all this trumpeted by his followers), then proceeded to golf at twice the rate of prior president, at his own clubs which charged the secret service god knows what to stay at. Not a peep from his ardent followers.

Sums up the current state of American politics. Whether a person is good or bad depends on the letter next to their name. All actions are irrelevant. They will be casually dismissed, “what about”ed, or just ignored and waived away, IF the letter next to the doer is the right letter.

I think you’re missing the point entirely. I don’t know and don’t care how often any president golfs. Work hard play harder has been my philosophy from the beginning.

The point is that the last administration was so negligent that Joe golfing was bad optics. Trump has done more for issues like Ukraine/Russias and illegal immigration (despite the last administration saying it was impossible to solve) that his constituents probably doesn’t care that he golfs.

That’s the main difference between the two

Extenda 03-15-2025 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3893499)
U honestly worried about millions of $ paying for legit secret service protection when Uncle Joe allowed millions of illegal immigrants into the country over his term? Where are your posts highlighting these costs? Guess who’s paying for all the healthcare, housing and debit cards these illegals get? Hint… not them. Quit with the TDS and focus on things that matter.

You can ask me my opinion about the border, transgender issues, etc, (the hot button issues determining the election) and maybe you’d be surprised by my response even though I have “TDS”.

Again, I think you and the comment above validate the points I made in my original comment.

sailingfun 03-15-2025 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3893499)
U honestly worried about millions of $ paying for legit secret service protection when Uncle Joe allowed millions of illegal immigrants into the country over his term? Where are your posts highlighting these costs? Guess who’s paying for all the healthcare, housing and debit cards these illegals get? Hint… not them. Quit with the TDS and focus on things that matter.

Thats why I listen to what Trump says. His followers tend not to listen. The hard part for me is he has a lot of great policies. I just feel integrity is important in a President.

Buck Rogers 03-15-2025 07:22 PM

Reasonable people listen to what Trump says and use some common sense. Others, not so much.

I will fix the border day 1. Wasn't day 1 but PDQ Border crossings down 95% which will result in lower costs that sanctuary cities can now spend on US citizens. Seems pretty common sense.
I will end the Ukraine war. Wasn"t day and not ended, but way more progress than previous 3 years.
I will return the American hostages from Hamas. Wasn't day one but PDQ.
Returned other hostages from Venezuela, Afganistan, Russia and didn'y pay billions to do so.
I will reign in inflation. First full month Trump in office slightly down . Eggs down $1.80 a dozen and oil down from $80/barrel to $65/barrel.
Stellantis, Mercedes, Nissan Siemmens Honda, LG, Samsung etc bringing jobs back to America.
Drill baby drill. It's happening on govt land. 625 million acres which Biden shut down
Protect America first. 2 Trillion in investment announced in USA. Apple, TSMC, Saudia Arabia, DAMAC, Tawain, etc
Restart Keystone pipeline. Signed bill allowing KPL on federal land.
Stop transgenders from competing in women sports. Signed executive order doing so.
3 or 4 International terrorists taken out PQQ
Suspended sex transition surgeries for people under 19YO, which seems pretty common sensical.
English as official language
Military recruitment for Navy and Army for Jan, Feb, Mar highest level in 15 years.
Border agents, ICE estatic over actually being able to do their job instead of process servers for CBP app.
Expanded access to IVF.
Told Sec Treasury to stop minting pennies that cot 3.5 cent to coin. How could anybody be against anything that crazy. Didn't happen immediately, but hopefully effin soon.

Is there anything that the L or D's can find supportable? If so, I haven't heard it from them. The D's are taking the 20 on every 80/20 issue. Good luck. Keep going further left, I'm sure that will work out well.

ERAUAV8TR 03-15-2025 09:58 PM

As my retirement evaporates "short term pain" lol and we go to war and invsde panama canal and cause economic collapse. I assume that the top percentage of pilots will push hard for 67 age. They get two more years to hopefully get back what trump lost them. How likely and how much negotiating capital in dc do we have for them to get it?

ThumbsUp 03-16-2025 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3893475)
Would it have been an issue to you if Joe Biden had owned the Malibu mansion the SS was staying in?

ignoring the main points of my first paragraph kind of validates my second one.

You mean like when the secret service rented Biden’s cottage in Delaware? The secret service stays with the protectee… this is a nothing burger.

ugleeual 03-16-2025 04:26 AM

TDS folks are just tired of all the Winning that’s happening!

Buck Rogers 03-16-2025 05:09 AM

In case anyone thought the DOJ hasn't been weaponized.

'Substantially groundless and vexatious': Irate judge orders Fani Willis to pay attorneys fees for 'intentional' violations of open records laws in Trump RICO case

DogPit 03-16-2025 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3893538)
Thats why I listen to what Trump says. His followers tend not to listen. The hard part for me is he has a lot of great policies. I just feel integrity is important in a President.

What integrity did the last one have?

DogPit 03-16-2025 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3893582)
As my retirement evaporates "short term pain" lol and we go to war and invsde panama canal and cause economic collapse. I assume that the top percentage of pilots will push hard for 67 age. They get two more years to hopefully get back what trump lost them. How likely and how much negotiating capital in dc do we have for them to get it?

Mine isn't evaporating, guess I'm more smarter than you. Does the invasion start before or after Canada?

ERAUAV8TR 03-16-2025 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893617)
Mine isn't evaporating, guess I'm more smarter than you. Does the invasion start before or after Canada?

Thats great. It probably means you are very old and more conservative investments. But who knows I am a paid actor lol

SoFloFlyer 03-16-2025 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3893582)
As my retirement evaporates "short term pain" lol and we go to war and invsde panama canal and cause economic collapse. I assume that the top percentage of pilots will push hard for 67 age. They get two more years to hopefully get back what trump lost them. How likely and how much negotiating capital in dc do we have for them to get it?

You should get yourself a money guy. If you can’t get your head wrapped around how politics work, you’ll completely lose it when it comes to finances lol

JayRalstonSmith 03-16-2025 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Dubiousbrother (Post 3893190)
Really?
see Dred Scott decision
Plessy V Ferguson
Korematsu V US

And? There’s getting a decision wrong, and there’s saying “SCOTUS just makes stuff up all the time and doesn't have any intellectual integrity so they aren't really a reliable source of information.”


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