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03-10-2025 | 10:32 AM
#51
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I honestly don’t care if we go into a recession or not. We cannot sustain this level of spending....Losing our position as the dollar being the worlds reserve currency would be devastating and take decades if ever before we could get it back....There is more at stake than KCM and USAID
03-10-2025 | 10:50 AM
#52
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As I said, I’ve got plenty of issues with the scope & efficiency of the TSA, but that’s another conversation. The government’s ease in tearing up a union contract- & their general hostility to labor at large- should be concerning to all Americans, but most especially those of us represented by labor unions. ALPA represented pilots celebrating this move are a bit like a flock of sheep celebrating wolf conservation efforts.
I believe there’s a section in Flying the Line that talks about the risk to our union’s strength of pilots who make enough money to start thinking they have more in common with management than labor. Make no mistake we will always be grunts pulling levers to them & they dream of the day they can do the same thing to our contract & start paying us what they think we’re worth. (Spoiler: it’s less than we’re making now.)
Again, I’d ask my union brothers & sisters- which side of the negotiating table is feeling empowered by this move?
I believe there’s a section in Flying the Line that talks about the risk to our union’s strength of pilots who make enough money to start thinking they have more in common with management than labor. Make no mistake we will always be grunts pulling levers to them & they dream of the day they can do the same thing to our contract & start paying us what they think we’re worth. (Spoiler: it’s less than we’re making now.)
Again, I’d ask my union brothers & sisters- which side of the negotiating table is feeling empowered by this move?
03-10-2025 | 10:56 AM
#53
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From: A320 FO
As I said, I’ve got plenty of issues with the scope & efficiency of the TSA, but that’s another conversation. The government’s ease in tearing up a union contract- & their general hostility to labor at large- should be concerning to all Americans, but most especially those of us represented by labor unions. ALPA represented pilots celebrating this move are a bit like a flock of sheep celebrating wolf conservation efforts.
I believe there’s a section in Flying the Line that talks about the risk to our union’s strength of pilots who make enough money to start thinking they have more in common with management than labor. Make no mistake we will always be grunts pulling levers to them & they dream of the day they can do the same thing to our contract & start paying us what they think we’re worth. (Spoiler: it’s less than we’re making now.)
Again, I’d ask my union brothers & sisters- which side of the negotiating table is feeling empowered by this move?
I believe there’s a section in Flying the Line that talks about the risk to our union’s strength of pilots who make enough money to start thinking they have more in common with management than labor. Make no mistake we will always be grunts pulling levers to them & they dream of the day they can do the same thing to our contract & start paying us what they think we’re worth. (Spoiler: it’s less than we’re making now.)
Again, I’d ask my union brothers & sisters- which side of the negotiating table is feeling empowered by this move?
Even Roosevelt (hardly a far-right demagogue) argued against public sector unions. It's apples and oranges.
03-10-2025 | 10:57 AM
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Guys, TDSers and MAGA, we are hemorrhaging TRILLIONS of dollars every year. We can’t keep this up. Eventually lenders won’t lend the Government any money and we can only print so much before inflation goes insane.
I honestly don’t care if we go into a recession or not. We cannot sustain this level of spending. Governments have gone “bankrupt” before, the Weimar, Argentina, Greece. It can happen here too. A recession is temporary. Losing our position as the dollar being the worlds reserve currency would be devastating and take decades if ever before we could get it back.
There is more at stake than KCM and USAID and China is nipping at our heels.
I honestly don’t care if we go into a recession or not. We cannot sustain this level of spending. Governments have gone “bankrupt” before, the Weimar, Argentina, Greece. It can happen here too. A recession is temporary. Losing our position as the dollar being the worlds reserve currency would be devastating and take decades if ever before we could get it back.
There is more at stake than KCM and USAID and China is nipping at our heels.
Problem is if you look at federal spending, it’s almost entirely SocSec, healthcare, & defense- with interest becoming a growing cost. So if you're at all realistic about making a difference, you’ve got to either go after those three, or increase your income (ie raise taxes) or more likely at this point, both.
The federal workforce- where EM seems to be focused- makes up about 4% of spending so even if you make huge cuts in that area (which he seems intent on doing) it simply won’t be felt. Unlike the 6x bankrupt Trump, Musk is no dummy so it’s literally impossible he doesn’t understand this. Rather than affecting the bottom line, he seems to be more motivated by a general contempt for labor, which is pretty much in keeping with his conduct at Tesla & Twitter/X.
Show me a real budget plan than makes meaningful changes (not nebulous claims of having saved nebulous billions that always seem to be proven false) toward fiscal sustainability & I’m listening. Until then all I see is the most aggressively anti-labor administration of my lifetime marching under the banner of “getting spending under control”.
03-10-2025 | 11:10 AM
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True. A little ironic that a guy who ran the debt up as aggressively as Trump45 is suddenly the champion of fiscal responsibility but hey, if he’s gonna do it, great.
Problem is if you look at federal spending, it’s almost entirely SocSec, healthcare, & defense- with interest becoming a growing cost. So if you're at all realistic about making a difference, you’ve got to either go after those three, or increase your income (ie raise taxes) or more likely at this point, both.
The federal workforce- where EM seems to be focused- makes up about 4% of spending so even if you make huge cuts in that area (which he seems intent on doing) it simply won’t be felt. Unlike the 6x bankrupt Trump, Musk is no dummy so it’s literally impossible he doesn’t understand this. Rather than affecting the bottom line, he seems to be more motivated by a general contempt for labor, which is pretty much in keeping with his conduct at Tesla & Twitter/X.
Show me a real budget plan than makes meaningful changes (not nebulous claims of having saved nebulous billions that always seem to be proven false) toward fiscal sustainability & I’m listening. Until then all I see is the most aggressively anti-labor administration of my lifetime marching under the banner of “getting spending under control”.
Problem is if you look at federal spending, it’s almost entirely SocSec, healthcare, & defense- with interest becoming a growing cost. So if you're at all realistic about making a difference, you’ve got to either go after those three, or increase your income (ie raise taxes) or more likely at this point, both.
The federal workforce- where EM seems to be focused- makes up about 4% of spending so even if you make huge cuts in that area (which he seems intent on doing) it simply won’t be felt. Unlike the 6x bankrupt Trump, Musk is no dummy so it’s literally impossible he doesn’t understand this. Rather than affecting the bottom line, he seems to be more motivated by a general contempt for labor, which is pretty much in keeping with his conduct at Tesla & Twitter/X.
Show me a real budget plan than makes meaningful changes (not nebulous claims of having saved nebulous billions that always seem to be proven false) toward fiscal sustainability & I’m listening. Until then all I see is the most aggressively anti-labor administration of my lifetime marching under the banner of “getting spending under control”.
1. cut SS/medicare/medicaid (no happening)
2. Drastically cut the military budget (not happening)
3. Raise taxes (not happening)
03-10-2025 | 11:50 AM
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His foreign policy is the problem? He is getting Ukraine and Russia to come the negotiating table for the first time in 3 years! Hopefully it will save us another 120 BILLION that we already spent. More than any other country combined!
You guys are so worried about “Orange Man Bad!” that you can’t see we are spending ourselves into a huge hole that we may not be able to get out of as it is!
03-10-2025 | 11:58 AM
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If they want to fix the deficit why did they start with pennies? Why is the House budget $4.5T in the red from the start?
Start with finding out why the $ is the reserve currency then ask yourself if starting fights with our allies and cozying up to our enemies will help with keeping it that way. Germany and Poland considering nuclear weapons ought to be a clue.
Start with finding out why the $ is the reserve currency then ask yourself if starting fights with our allies and cozying up to our enemies will help with keeping it that way. Germany and Poland considering nuclear weapons ought to be a clue.
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