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dmeg13021 03-13-2025 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Uninteresting (Post 3892488)
go wherever the best looking FAs are.

Is Icelandair hiring?

Margaritaville 03-13-2025 10:11 AM

It sounds like you have no ties to a particular area and are financially sound to weather a downturn. JB isn't going to get any better than it is right now. UAL will offer way better long term opportunities especially at your age. I'd say go.

Regarding furloughs I think it would have to get really bad like another pandemic or WW3 bad for the airlines to furlough signifigant numbers. They're much more likely to offer early outs to seniors than to furlough and struggle again to get pilots on the other side. They remember the self induced pilot shortage well.

CLazarus 03-13-2025 03:16 PM

For all the joking and rumors I've seen about buying JB over the years, what's been bubbling recently is the first time I can't dismiss it out of hand. Jon Ostrower of The Air Current is a knowledgeable guy with deep sources, and he's picked up on merger or other deal buzz regarding UAL and JB. I still don't think a merger will happen for all the reasons Kirby laid out in the story below and tend to think it might be a JFK slot deal of some sort. But, if a merger was ever going to happen it would be during the current administration. Might want to pay close attention to Ostrower's social media feed before quitting JB.

https://onemileatatime.com/news/unit...etblue-merger/

Uninteresting 03-13-2025 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3892409)
You left out the black Reeboks and cell phone holster.

White Hokas

11atsomto 03-13-2025 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by zerozero (Post 3891926)
With four years of seniority, 1200 below you at your age I WOULD STAY AT JB for now and re-evualate career life goals closer to when you're 40 years old.

At 40, you can still have a solid 25 year career whatever you decide to do.

So don't leave now, leave after 12 years?.....ummmmm ok.

Ummm Yeah that would be the most efficient way to lower your credit score....... and at 40 unless we are offering 787 street captains positions.....the individual would never be able to recover lost pay.

It is understandable but there appears to be a lack of understanding from United pilots just how close JB 320 hr compensation is to UAL's narrow body. Again you would only know if you worked at both places (like me) but JB's pay is much closer to a legacy narrow body than it is greater than Alegiant, Spirit, Frontier.

As to the OP....I like you left after 4 1/2 years at B6 as well.....mostly cause I live 35 mins from Newark and unlike you am very tied to the area with all types of responsibilities and I was 40 when I left.

There have been times since then that I have regretted my decision ( not to say B6 is better just that sacrificing seniority and its effects on family).......there have been a few more times when I really Thank my lucky stars I left. The scoreboard may change again....we won't know if I was right until the buzzer sounds.

A good thing is you already seem to be mature enough to know it may get worse before it gets better.

khergan 03-14-2025 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by Uninteresting (Post 3892673)
White Hokas

White Hokas are 💯 the new standard uniform item for LEPF generation.

JoePatroni 03-14-2025 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by khergan (Post 3892804)
White Hokas are 💯 the new standard uniform item for LEPF generation.

Vertical leap training shoes.

Flyby1206 03-14-2025 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by CLazarus (Post 3892662)
For all the joking and rumors I've seen about buying JB over the years, what's been bubbling recently is the first time I can't dismiss it out of hand. Jon Ostrower of The Air Current is a knowledgeable guy with deep sources, and he's picked up on merger or other deal buzz regarding UAL and JB. I still don't think a merger will happen for all the reasons Kirby laid out in the story below and tend to think it might be a JFK slot deal of some sort. But, if a merger was ever going to happen it would be during the current administration. Might want to pay close attention to Ostrower's social media feed before quitting JB.

https://onemileatatime.com/news/unit...etblue-merger/

Ostrower is a sharp and level headed guy, but I didn’t see anything in a quick scan of his X/bsky account. Have any links to him referencing UA/JB?

Slop 03-14-2025 10:12 AM

I'd say make the jump. I was 33 when I got hired, WITH all of the stuff that you DON'T have. (Wife, kids, mortgage etc) and I am already something like 48% company wide. Still lots of retirments coming up, and if you're fine with a commute or an eventual move, it seems to be a no brainer for me.

traderpilot 03-14-2025 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Anonymous2092 (Post 3891855)
Yet another "Stay or Leave" post.

I've been at B6 for coming up on 4 years now, based in MCO. I came here because I wanted to live in FL, and I didn't want to be furloughed. I'd been holding out on leaving because of fears of a furlough back when everyone in my class left. Now it's been years, and all my classmates that went to legacies are having a ball while we've been struggling to grow. I was feeling, a bit optimistic back when I thought we might gain Spirit's route network, but now that thats all fallen through and with all the downgrades coming, I just feel like I sold myself short. Now don't get me wrong, B6 has been good to me, but I'd be lying if I said I really look forward to the next 30+ years at this moment in time. Now with an april class date offer from UAL, I'm stuck wondering if the possibility of a furlough in the near future is worth the risk. The economy isn't looking great right now, and hiring is starting to slow down. I've got good senioriy at B6 with 1,200 below me, but I'm not sure if thats saying much when I fly with 12+ year captains on reserve.

Things worth noting:
- 32
- no kids
- no wife
- no debt
- no mortgage
- widebody flying seems cool, but isn't a main driver
- don't mind commuting for now if I know it'll be worth the long-term gain

All things being equal, I feel relatively good about JetBlue's future, but thats only because I think we will be bought in the next 2-4 years. Is it worth staying to find out? WWYD?

I look at it from an entirely different perspective, job security but hear me out. With the sheer amount of flying increases, it statistically becomes more and more possible that someone will fold up and airplane and have 150-180 letters to write plus the legal fallout afterwards. United would absolutely survive such a catastrophic event. B6 may, but I'd argue it is significantly less certain.

Economic downturn aside since no one knows, United will better shield you from furlough based on what someone else said which is absolutely true... we're too big to fail barring serious corporate criminal activity.

Folding up a narrow body into a smoking hole has been estimated to cost approximately 2 billion when it's said and done. As I said, B6 could probably stomach the financials but doubtful it would survive the decade backlash afterwards. I'm not saying United would simply shrug it off but the financial aspect is a non issue and the brand, IMHO, would recover far faster.

For all of the 737's faults, it is a seniority rocket ship so you'd be able to recover seniority relatively quickly.

Finally, if you just get tired of flying the same airplane to the same routes over and over, a switch is always nearby. That can be a non tangible goldmine as life deals you unexpected changes in the future.

The grass is greener if you want to see it


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