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Austin Milbarge 06-20-2025 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by dingdong (Post 3922057)
Edit: Can't use white text dummy

His user name is dingdong.

OOfff 06-20-2025 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by dingdong (Post 3922107)
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So, when our planes take off out of Indian airports, what guarantee do we have that our fuel isn’t contaminated?

what reason do you have to believe the fuel was contaminated on this flight?

ThumbsUp 06-20-2025 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Austin Milbarge (Post 3922123)
His user name is dingdong.

And he was correcting himself. It's the same person.

dingdong 06-20-2025 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3922146)
what reason do you have to believe the fuel was contaminated on this flight?

“On Jun 20th 2025 government officials stated, that India's AAIB is currently looking into another case of dual engine problems with an A321 that happened in London Gatwick in 2020, see: Incident: Titan A321 at London on Feb 26th 2020, left engine surged, engine stall indications for right engine, that was caused by fuel contamination. It appears on preliminary findings, that there was no error in the cockpit, it appears that as soon as the flight became airborne the power failure occurred leaving the aircraft unable to climb to a safe altitude.“

I agree that nothing is true until the CVR/FDR is made public, but it appears that the Indian AAIB is already pointing fingers at fuel contamination. I use AVHerald as a pretty good source for truth in Aviation accident reporting (minus the comment section)


Typhoonpilot 06-20-2025 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 3922088)
2 ways to deploy the RAT. Use the switch, or loss of thrust on both engines. Similar to the 777.

Actually more than that:

A Ram Air Turbine (RAT) serves as an emergency source of electrical and
hydraulic power. It has no operating time limits, airspeeds, or altitudes.
In flight, the RAT deploys automatically if any of the following occur:
• both engines have failed
• all three hydraulic system pressures are low
• loss of all electrical power to captain’s and first officer’s flight
instruments
• loss of all four EMPs and faults in the flight control system occur on
approach
• loss of all four EMPs and an engine fails on takeoff or landing
The RAT can be deployed manually if necessary by pushing the RAM AIR
TURBINE switch on the hydraulic panel.


On the B777 it is this by comparison:

In flight, the RAT
deploys automatically if:
• both engines are failed and center system pressure is low, or
• both AC transfer busses are unpowered, or
• all three hydraulic system pressures are low
The RAT can be deployed manually by pushing the RAM AIR TURBINE switch.
The hot battery or APU battery bus must be powered. The center hydraulic system
does not need to be powered. The RAT is deployed by a compressed spring. Once
deployed, the RAT cannot be stowed in flight.

11atsomto 06-21-2025 03:29 AM

Many of you probably have read something circulating the internets apparently from “someone in the know” from the AAIB.
Basic theory is electrical interruption during rotation.
I read a couple of things that I’m not sure I understand…….certainly don’t agree with at the very least.
Including that
• Torrential rain during pushback.
• Moisture intrusion into PRB-A connector.

must have been a very quick passing front……as the video from the takeoff surely doesn’t suggest heavy rainfall….but it is the monsoon season
Look it, maybe we can lean on someone with connections to India but most of my Indian born friends and neighbors (non pilots) tell me that Government agencies aren’t known for their investigative integrity or transparency.

and anyway why is this on United’s thread?

jdt30 06-21-2025 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3922191)
Many of you probably have read something circulating the internets apparently from “someone in the know” from the AAIB.
Basic theory is electrical interruption during rotation.
I read a couple of things that I’m not sure I understand…….certainly don’t agree with at the very least.
Including that
• Torrential rain during pushback.
• Moisture intrusion into PRB-A connector.

must have been a very quick passing front……as the video from the takeoff surely doesn’t suggest heavy rainfall….but it is the monsoon season
Look it, maybe we can lean on someone with connections to India but most of my Indian born friends and neighbors (non pilots) tell me that Government agencies aren’t known for their investigative integrity or transparency.

and anyway why is this on United’s thread?

That report is another internet fake

dingdong 06-21-2025 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3922191)
Many of you probably have read something circulating the internets apparently from “someone in the know” from the AAIB.
Basic theory is electrical interruption during rotation.
I read a couple of things that I’m not sure I understand…….certainly don’t agree with at the very least.
Including that
• Torrential rain during pushback.
• Moisture intrusion into PRB-A connector.

must have been a very quick passing front……as the video from the takeoff surely doesn’t suggest heavy rainfall….but it is the monsoon season
Look it, maybe we can lean on someone with connections to India but most of my Indian born friends and neighbors (non pilots) tell me that Government agencies aren’t known for their investigative integrity or transparency.

and anyway why is this on United’s thread?

we have aircraft that fly to India, and fuel up in India. One day I will be flying those planes and staying in the hotel over the course of the overnight. Plus, I was in the sun all day, had a few drinks, and was left unsupervised.

11atsomto 06-21-2025 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3922192)
That report is another internet fake

The Gen Z emojis 🧠⚙️✈️. made me rub my chin. Have you seen the same one?

jdt30 06-21-2025 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3922198)
The Gen Z emojis 🧠⚙️✈️. made me rub my chin. Have you seen the same one?

I haven’t seen that one.


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