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JTwift 09-04-2025 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by greatmovieistar (Post 3945401)
ohh how sweet. Very generous of them. lol, Kirby the vulture is wasting no time swooping in eating up the pieces left by Spirit.

I hope the Spirit folk land on their feet. Every time I’ve commuted on Spirit, the crews and gate agents are always very helpful and nice (to me, anyway).

but, what do you expect the business leaders or competitors to do? Sit back just hope it works out for the other company? Every competing company is trying to outdo the other. Destroy them, even. This is no different.

I’ll support every displaced pilot as best I can, it I would expect nothing different from any other company.

Grumble 09-04-2025 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by greatmovieistar;[url=tel:3945401
3945401[/url]]ohh how sweet. Very generous of them. lol, Kirby the vulture is wasting no time swooping in eating up the pieces left by Spirit.


Did you think they would just sit empty as the industry sits around and weeps the death of some close friend? Get real.

OFFCOURSE 09-04-2025 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3945487)
Exactly. Either UAL tries to fill the void or someone else will. But either way, the void WILL be filled by someone.


That’s what she said 🤣

ClappedOut145 09-04-2025 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by greatmovieistar (Post 3945401)
ohh how sweet. Very generous of them. lol, Kirby the vulture is wasting no time swooping in eating up the pieces left by Spirit.

As he should. I’d like to see one flight an hour out of every gate in MCO, FLL, TPA, etc from 0600-2000 in order to maximize every available ounce of flying possible. This is a business. Kirby and Quayle are a weakness and an opening in these markets and it’s their job to capitalize on that weakness.

khergan 09-04-2025 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3945530)
As he should. I’d like to see one flight an hour out of every gate in MCO, FLL, TPA, etc from 0600-2000 in order to maximize every available ounce of flying possible. This is a business. Kirby and Quayle are a weakness and an opening in these markets and it’s their job to capitalize on that weakness.

With the insane number of aircraft and pilots coming in 2026 (supposedly), we will need to flood the system just to have space to put all these jets and pilots.

Agratefulflyer 09-04-2025 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by greatmovieistar (Post 3945401)
ohh how sweet. Very generous of them. lol, Kirby the vulture is wasting no time swooping in eating up the pieces left by Spirit.


not a Kirby disciple but get a grip man. People are trying to run a business here.

SoFloFlyer 09-04-2025 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Agratefulflyer (Post 3945654)
not a Kirby disciple but get a grip man. People are trying to run a business here.

It’s weird that only Kirby got flack, but not F9. They did the same thing a few days ago on about 20 NK routes

jumppilot 09-04-2025 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3945427)
All these new airplanes have to go somewhere. With the economy slowing down, I think these new flights will drive down legacy yields more than ULCC yields.

Spirit is used to operating with very low yields. Is United? I hope so.

The big airlines don’t make money flying people.

https://www.economist.com/business/2...airlines-aloft


“You might expect America’s most valuable airline to earn its keep flying passengers. But you would be mistaken. Last year Delta Air Lines notched up an operating profit of $6bn, comfortably ahead of its domestic rivals. Buried in the financial statements, however, was a more revealing point. Without the revenue from its loyalty programme, it would have operated at a loss.”



Grumble 09-04-2025 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer;[url=tel:3945659
3945659[/url]]It’s weird that only Kirby got flack, but not F9. They did the same thing a few days ago on about 20 NK routes

He predicts F9 will be gone by the end of next year according to comments made recently. If his track record is any indicator… it wouldnt be the worst idea to start shorting them.

Vernon Demerest 09-04-2025 04:20 PM

United lags at least 3 other airlines in Florida capacity so it makes sense to be interested should an opportunity present. I like that our pilot group isn’t high fiving each other on forums and elsewhere (like SWA pilots would do in the early 2000s as the big 5 legacies floundered post 9–11)but are mostly showing concern for the effected pilots at Spirit.


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