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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
(Post 3948569)
He'd never fly again. There is a double standard. Leftists called for Trump to be burned, killed, and numerous other things his entire first term and none of them were removed from Twitter. Milo said one of the women in Ghostbusters was a terrible actress and called her an "Ape"and he was permanently banned immediately. There are two standards and we all know it.
Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you sincerely clueless? He was using a private website, with terms of service, he broke the rules by harassing and encouraging hundreds of his followers to harass a person, and he was removed. It’s that simple. Never mind the fact that he made a very lucrative career out of farming outrage, he probably should have been removed from the internet for advocating for legalizing pedophilia. “Twitter has permanently suspended conservative commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, saying that he subjected other users to targeted abuse. Yiannopoulos' suspension comes amid a recent campaign aimed at Ghostbusters actress Leslie Jones in which users tweeted hundreds of racist and abusive messages. [linked site contains offensive material] "People should be able to express diverse opinions and beliefs on Twitter," Twitter said in a statement emailed to NPR. "But no one deserves to be subjected to targeted abuse online, and our rules prohibit inciting or engaging in the targeted abuse or harassment of others."“ https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...targeted-abuse https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...poulos-resigns |
Originally Posted by DownSideUp
(Post 3948579)
I will never fly with Andrew. More importantly, how could anyone fly with this guy knowing that he may hate everything about you and want you ‘un-alived’? I’m not willing to take that risk (and neither should UAL).
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Originally Posted by AirportJunkie
(Post 3948583)
What I’ve said fits well within the context of the reps post in regards to Kirk’s ideas and what has happened to him. Yes there has been democrat law markers murdered in June and yes there were vile things said about them.
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
(Post 3948587)
What democrat lawmakers were killed in June? The one in Minnesota that sided that was assassinated by a Democrat appointee because she sided with Republicans on a voting measure? The only people that criticized her were Democrats.
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Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3948515)
I didn't know too much of Charlie Kirk, but from what I saw, I was impressed. I think he was unfairly labeled, but I wasn't and won't dive into every statement he made to prove one point or the other. I certainly wouldn't portray the late Mr Kirk as a Nazi.
The problem here is that praising the assassination of anyone is reprehensible and, IMHO, a sign of mental issues. Which is grounds for removal of his medical. Germanwings comes to mind. Now, we all have little demons in our heads that sometimes are in the forefront of our thoughts. But as pilots, we are held to a higher standard than the general public and are expected to keep our 'fecal matter' together. Put another way, be able to stow all of our baggage underneath the seat in front of us. If a pilot has difficulty controlling those demons, they would be well served to not post on the internet. No matter which side of the political spectrum one resides, violence and the praise of violent actions is unacceptable. Let this young man's actions serve as a lesson for all of us. Don't let hate consume you. Be smart, be safe, and consider calling/telling your loved ones that you love them.. |
Originally Posted by BlueScholar
(Post 3948576)
So just to be clear the official United Airlines and ALPA stance is to honor, defend and lionize the person who said “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.” (– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024), but if you speak out against that person you will be fired?
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Originally Posted by AirportJunkie
(Post 3948561)
Kirk’s stance and any stance allowing unfettered and unrestricted use of the 2nd amendment puts you, me, very ironically him at greater risk of getting unnecessarily murdered by someone who has no record with a gun. Until many of you can realize that there are far to many guns in the US, acts like this will continue to happen.
At this point talk is cheap, there is a very real problem in this country with gun ownership and without action completely innocent people will continue to be unnecessarily murdered. Next it could be one of us, your kid at school, a democrat law marker, or all people Charles Kirk. |
Originally Posted by BlueScholar
(Post 3948576)
So just to be clear the official United Airlines and ALPA stance is to honor, defend and lionize the person who said “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.” (– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024), but if you speak out against that person you will be fired?
Make it make sense! You get rid of DEI, public perception will be that everyone earned it. Asians don’t have DEI installed in their hiring at any job I am aware of, nor college entrance. Yet they have one of the highest average earnings, lowest unemployment of anyone, and there’s never a perception they didn’t work hard and earn it. DEI is a cancer |
Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
(Post 3948591)
Andrew is that you?
At this time, I'd like to point out that this is the second ALPA rep with the first name Andrew that's gotten unwanted attention. I've been previously accused of being the 'other' Andrew, who retired early this year. I have never been an ALPA rep. Andrew's not a great name for a United pilot. Worse name for a UAL ALPA rep. :D |
Originally Posted by VB Hornet
(Post 3948565)
I hope you are wrong. I can't imagine working with him or the public knowing that he was flying a jet.
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
(Post 3948560)
Actions have consequences. I am sure Andrew will be suspended for a bit and will end up keeping his job. He’s an ALPA status rep and will have a lot of resources to help defend him. His comments along with others on the left are uneducated and quite disgusting.
as for me .. ole Charlie would be “concerned” if he saw someone like me on the flight deck. And since the company is suspending people for how they feel I’ll leave it there so I can work to fly another day. And before someone misconstrues words. No it’s not ok to blast a person for their speech . |
Suspending my Alpa pac contributions until the dude is off property. A token protest for sure but I’m ok with that.
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Originally Posted by Agratefulflyer
(Post 3948624)
let’s be honest . There’s a lot of those amongst us who are just like Charlie Kirk here . That guy is done ALPA rep or not.
as for me .. ole Charlie would be “concerned” if he saw someone like me on the flight deck. And since the company is suspending people for how they feel I’ll leave it there so I can work to fly another day. And before someone misconstrues words. No it’s not ok to blast a person for their speech . it means you cannot be fined, imprisoned or reprimanded or silenced by government for speech. ( obviously yelling fire blah, blah,blah). it doesn’t mean your private employer can’t ****can you. we learned that when we spoke out against Covid nonsense and Libs said “ private businesses, tough luck” [mod edit] |
Originally Posted by PopperLover
(Post 3948521)
Milo, the individual whose account is linked, is a known white nationalist. If that terminology is too complicated for your vocabulary, Milo believes in white superiority and a white American ethno state.
Suffice to say, if you’ve ****ed Milo off, you’re probably not a scumbag. charlie Kirk didn’t deserve death, but he wasn’t a good person in the slightest. I don’t know AS, or his connection to the alleged posts. If really him, I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive. Kirk was a dangerous person peddling divisive if not outright racist and sexist ideology and commentary on a daily basis. Kirk and people like him were and are responsible for putting American political discourse where it is. It appears the individual in the screenshots essentially said as much. If you read past the white nationalists claims, nowhere does the person say they’re glad they’re dead, just that they aren’t losing sleep over it. Quite honestly way too many people are being fired for saying what our elected leaders SHOULD be saying. Do not white wash Kirk’s terrible history just because he was brutally killed. 100% on point. |
Originally Posted by AirportJunkie
(Post 3948561)
Kirk’s stance and any stance allowing unfettered and unrestricted use of the 2nd amendment puts you, me, very ironically him at greater risk of getting unnecessarily murdered by someone who has no record with a gun. Until many of you can realize that there are far to many guns in the US, acts like this will continue to happen.
At this point talk is cheap, there is a very real problem in this country with gun ownership and without action completely innocent people will continue to be unnecessarily murdered. Next it could be one of us, your kid at school, a democrat law marker, or all people Charles Kirk. I’m writing to my ALPA reps to have him removed from his union position. |
Originally Posted by Agratefulflyer
(Post 3948624)
let’s be honest . There’s a lot of those amongst us who are just like Charlie Kirk here . That guy is done ALPA rep or not.
as for me .. ole Charlie would be “concerned” if he saw someone like me on the flight deck. And since the company is suspending people for how they feel I’ll leave it there so I can work to fly another day. And before someone misconstrues words. No it’s not ok to blast a person for their speech . |
Originally Posted by Agratefulflyer
(Post 3948624)
let’s be honest . There’s a lot of those amongst us who are just like Charlie Kirk here . That guy is done ALPA rep or not.
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 3948633)
Thank you for posting that.
100% on point. Is this on point? |
I will just point out one single difference between the left and right and then I’m done with this thread as I’m shocked that there are some pilots at our company with this much hate against someone on the other side of the political/religious spectrum.
How many cities are on fire after CK was murdered in cold blood? How much looting and rioting is going on? |
Originally Posted by VB Hornet
(Post 3948647)
Andrew said " the only good Nxxi is a dead Nxxi" then Popper guy said,. "If really him, I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive."
Is this on point? |
Originally Posted by PopperLover
(Post 3948645)
That’s the unfortunate truth. Just look at how this thread is going. Gag me.
You, on the other hand are saying what Andrew said was just fine. |
Originally Posted by AirportJunkie
(Post 3948561)
Kirk’s stance and any stance allowing unfettered and unrestricted use of the 2nd amendment puts you, me, very ironically him at greater risk of getting unnecessarily murdered by someone who has no record with a gun. Until many of you can realize that there are far to many guns in the US, acts like this will continue to happen.
At this point talk is cheap, there is a very real problem in this country with gun ownership and without action completely innocent people will continue to be unnecessarily murdered…. Hunting rifles are not restricted and necessary equipment for those that live in rural areas. |
Originally Posted by Bestglide
(Post 3948635)
wow! With that logic I guess we should ban airplanes since they were used to kill over 3k people. As for our rep w Charlie Kirk. Just despicable. If he ever showed up on my trip I would refuse to fly w such hatred. He needs some psychological help!
I’m writing to my ALPA reps to have him removed from his union position. |
Originally Posted by PopperLover;[url=tel:3948521
3948521]Milo, the individual whose account is linked, is a known white nationalist. If that terminology is too complicated for your vocabulary, Milo believes in white superiority and a white American ethno state.
Suffice to say, if you’ve ****ed Milo off, you’re probably not a scumbag. charlie Kirk didn’t deserve death, but he wasn’t a good person in the slightest. I don’t know AS, or his connection to the alleged posts. If really him, I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive. Kirk was a dangerous person peddling divisive if not outright racist and sexist ideology and commentary on a daily basis. Kirk and people like him were and are responsible for putting American political discourse where it is. It appears the individual in the screenshots essentially said as much. If you read past the white nationalists claims, nowhere does the person say they’re glad they’re dead, just that they aren’t losing sleep over it. Quite honestly way too many people are being fired for saying what our elected leaders SHOULD be saying. Do not white wash Kirk’s terrible history just because he was brutally killed. Advocating for the violent suppression of those you disagree with (which you have clearly done), hate to break it to you but [mod edit]. Get help dude… |
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