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Knotcher 09-12-2025 11:14 AM

LAX rep social media rant
 
These are the types that accused CK of hate speech:rolleyes:


https://x.com/Nero/status/1966577557542715832

DogPit 09-12-2025 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 3948485)
These are the types that accused CK of hate speech:rolleyes:


https://x.com/Nero/status/1966577557542715832

A lot of people got fired yesterday and today for similar rants. Hopefully this douche gets canned and never works again.

JackReacher 09-12-2025 12:39 PM

And the Leftists are always the ones saying how hateful and violent the Right are. Gimme a break.

tengssuuciurta 09-12-2025 12:46 PM

What a vile creep.

Andy 09-12-2025 01:04 PM

I didn't know too much of Charlie Kirk, but from what I saw, I was impressed. I think he was unfairly labeled, but I wasn't and won't dive into every statement he made to prove one point or the other. I certainly wouldn't portray the late Mr Kirk as a Nazi.
The problem here is that praising the assassination of anyone is reprehensible and, IMHO, a sign of mental issues. Which is grounds for removal of his medical. Germanwings comes to mind.

Now, we all have little demons in our heads that sometimes are in the forefront of our thoughts. But as pilots, we are held to a higher standard than the general public and are expected to keep our 'fecal matter' together. Put another way, be able to stow all of our baggage underneath the seat in front of us. If a pilot has difficulty controlling those demons, they would be well served to not post on the internet.

No matter which side of the political spectrum one resides, violence and the praise of violent actions is unacceptable.

Let this young man's actions serve as a lesson for all of us. Don't let hate consume you. Be smart, be safe, and consider calling/telling your loved ones that you love them..

VB Hornet 09-12-2025 01:19 PM

Appalled, as usual, that the Facebook United Pilot Forum removed the post discussing this guy. I don't know how people are expected to learn from the mistakes of others if they don't know what is going on.

ThumbsUp 09-12-2025 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948521)
Milo, the individual whose account is linked, is a known white nationalist. If that terminology is too complicated for your vocabulary, Milo believes in white superiority and a white American ethno state.

Suffice to say, if you’ve ****ed Milo off, you’re probably not a scumbag.

charlie Kirk didn’t deserve death, but he wasn’t a good person in the slightest. I don’t know AS, or his connection to the alleged posts. If really him, I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive. Kirk was a dangerous person peddling divisive if not outright racist and sexist ideology and commentary on a daily basis. Kirk and people like him were and are responsible for putting American political discourse where it is.

It appears the individual in the screenshots essentially said as much. If you read past the white nationalists claims, nowhere does the person say they’re glad they’re dead, just that they aren’t losing sleep over it. Quite honestly way too many people are being fired for saying what our elected leaders SHOULD be saying. Do not white wash Kirk’s terrible history just because he was brutally killed.

You mean where AS said CK was a Nazi and the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi? Glad the company doesn’t share your views. Dude deserves to be fired. If not for what he said, for just having absolute 0 common sense.

VB Hornet 09-12-2025 01:29 PM

Milo has nothing to do with the post other than exposing it. The fact is that Andrew Schweitzer posted something outrageous. Political violence can never be normalized.

UALinIAH 09-12-2025 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948521)
Milo, the individual whose account is linked, is a known white nationalist. If that terminology is too complicated for your vocabulary, Milo believes in white superiority and a white American ethno state.

Suffice to say, if you’ve ****ed Milo off, you’re probably not a scumbag.

charlie Kirk didn’t deserve death, but he wasn’t a good person in the slightest. I don’t know AS, or his connection to the alleged posts. If really him, I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive. Kirk was a dangerous person peddling divisive if not outright racist and sexist ideology and commentary on a daily basis. Kirk and people like him were and are responsible for putting American political discourse where it is.

It appears the individual in the screenshots essentially said as much. If you read past the white nationalists claims, nowhere does the person say they’re glad they’re dead, just that they aren’t losing sleep over it. Quite honestly way too many people are being fired for saying what our elected leaders SHOULD be saying. Do not white wash Kirk’s terrible history just because he was brutally killed.

A father and husband was shot for having a different political opinion and having the courage to discuss issues. In no world is that ok. I don’t care what side of the fence you are politically. To say otherwise makes you part of the problem, not the solution.

RJSAviator76 09-12-2025 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948521)
Milo, the individual whose account is linked, is a known white nationalist. If that terminology is too complicated for your vocabulary, Milo believes in white superiority and a white American ethno state.

Suffice to say, if you’ve ****ed Milo off, you’re probably not a scumbag.

charlie Kirk didn’t deserve death, but he wasn’t a good person in the slightest. I don’t know AS, or his connection to the alleged posts. If really him, I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive. Kirk was a dangerous person peddling divisive if not outright racist and sexist ideology and commentary on a daily basis. Kirk and people like him were and are responsible for putting American political discourse where it is.

It appears the individual in the screenshots essentially said as much. If you read past the white nationalists claims, nowhere does the person say they’re glad they’re dead, just that they aren’t losing sleep over it. Quite honestly way too many people are being fired for saying what our elected leaders SHOULD be saying. Do not white wash Kirk’s terrible history just because he was brutally killed.

Are you serious?! The guy would take a mic to people who disagreed with him and debated them....

Now... go look at Charlie Kirk's videos, watch them in entirety and not left-wing edited clips and tell me where he advocated for anything remotely as evil as you claim. Just because someone disagrees with your views DOES NOT make them divisive, white nationalist, or evil. On the other hand.......... look at what you're saying.

PopperLover 09-12-2025 01:39 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...quotes-beliefs

yup nothing to see here folks.

sdj1986 09-12-2025 01:40 PM

Milo has a black boyfriend. Kinda odd behavior for a “white nationalist”.

DogPit 09-12-2025 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948530)

The guardian, good grief…

RJSAviator76 09-12-2025 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948530)

Just curious... did you ever bother to see the context of every last one of those quotes? Yeah... willing to bet you don't have a clue, do you?

VB Hornet 09-12-2025 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948530)

If you think these things are offensive does that mean that him getting killed was okay? Please put your employee number in your reply.

PopperLover 09-12-2025 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by VB Hornet (Post 3948535)
If you think these things are offensive does that mean that him getting killed was okay? Please put your employee number in your reply.

putting words in others mouth a lot like the white nationalist.

Nobody said that, but this is an important time to reflect on violent political discourse and folks like Kirk’s contributions to the charged environment.

DogPit 09-12-2025 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948543)
putting words in others mouth a lot like the white nationalist.

Nobody said that, but this is an important time to reflect on violent political discourse and folks like Kirk’s contributions to the charged environment.

They asked you a question, no one put words in your mouth. Answer the question.

sdj1986 09-12-2025 02:00 PM

Ironically, justifying the murder of someone because of their beliefs is the exact kind of thing fascists do.

VB Hornet 09-12-2025 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by sdj1986 (Post 3948547)
Ironically, justifying the murder of someone because of their beliefs is the exact kind of thing fascists do.

And Communists.

Andy 09-12-2025 02:04 PM

A few bullet points from the ALPA Code of Ethics
  • They will realize that they represent the airline to all whom meet them, and will at all times keep their personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
  • They will be a good citizen of their country, state and community, taking an active part in their affairs, especially those dealing with the improvement of aviation facilities and the enhancement of air safety.
  • They will conduct all their affairs in a manner which reflects credit on themselves and their profession.
  • They will not publish articles, give interviews, or permit their name to be used in any manner likely to bring discredit to another pilot, the airline industry, the profession or to ALPA.

I haven't always lived up to the code, but I do try.


United sent out a priority message today titled: Social media guidelines reminder
It doesn't take much to connect the dots on why it was sent.

If your demons take over and you can't help yourself to make vitriolic comments, log off and do something else. You could do long term damage to your career.



VB Hornet 09-12-2025 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948543)
putting words in others mouth a lot like the white nationalist.

Nobody said that, but this is an important time to reflect on violent political discourse and folks like Kirk’s contributions to the charged environment.

Andew said "the only good kind of Nazi is a dead Nazi" then you said " I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive."

vaxedtothemax 09-12-2025 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3948551)
A few bullet points from the ALPA Code of Ethics
  • They will realize that they represent the airline to all whom meet them, and will at all times keep their personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
  • They will be a good citizen of their country, state and community, taking an active part in their affairs, especially those dealing with the improvement of aviation facilities and the enhancement of air safety.
  • They will conduct all their affairs in a manner which reflects credit on themselves and their profession.
  • They will not publish articles, give interviews, or permit their name to be used in any manner likely to bring discredit to another pilot, the airline industry, the profession or to ALPA.

I haven't always lived up to the code, but I do try.


United sent out a priority message today titled: Social media guidelines reminder
It doesn't take much to connect the dots on why it was sent.

If your demons take over and you can't help yourself to make vitriolic comments, log off and do something else. You could do long term damage to your career.

this is a mental illness and we all know the three letter abbreviation.

PopperLover 09-12-2025 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3948544)
They asked you a question, no one put words in your mouth. Answer the question.

it was already answered in my original comment. You guys should learn to read.

LinaPeru 09-12-2025 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 3948485)
These are the types that accused CK of hate speech:rolleyes:


https://x.com/Nero/status/1966577557542715832

lol pilots are stupid. Just śtfu and fly the airplane.

100ft “Autopilot On”.

DogPit 09-12-2025 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948556)
it was already answered in my original comment. You guys should learn to read.

You should learn how to be a good human being.

VB Hornet 09-12-2025 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948543)
putting words in others mouth a lot like the white nationalist.

Nobody said that, but this is an important time to reflect on violent political discourse and folks like Kirk’s contributions to the charged environment.

Andrew said " the only good Nxxi is a dead Nxxi" then you said,. "If really him, I don’t see anything remotely unhinged incorrect or offensive." In every possible way his post and your reply are unhinged, incorrect, and offensive.

ClappedOut145 09-12-2025 02:13 PM

Actions have consequences. I am sure Andrew will be suspended for a bit and will end up keeping his job. He’s an ALPA status rep and will have a lot of resources to help defend him. His comments along with others on the left are uneducated and quite disgusting.

DogPit 09-12-2025 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by AirportJunkie (Post 3948561)
Kirk’s stance and any stance allowing unfettered and unrestricted use of the 2nd amendment puts you, me, very ironically him at greater risk of getting unnecessarily murdered by someone who has no record with a gun. Until many of you can realize that there are far to many guns in the US, acts like this will continue to happen.

At this point talk is cheap, there is a very real problem in this country with gun ownership and without action completely innocent people will continue to be unnecessarily murdered. Next it could be one of us, your kid at school, a democrat law marker, or all people Charles Kirk.

Yes, this wouldn’t have happened if guns were illegal. Guess we should make murder illegal too and maybe this wouldn’t have happened.

AirportJunkie 09-12-2025 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3948562)
Yes, this wouldn’t have happened if guns were illegal. Guess we should make murder illegal too and maybe this wouldn’t have happened.

Nice cliche. There is plenty of data pointing out that the number of guns is clearly a problem.

FriendlyPilot 09-12-2025 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948521)
Milo, the individual whose account is linked, is a known white nationalist.

Not true. He was married to a black guy for heaven's sake. He's a conservative. You just label everyone you don't agree with as a "known white nationalist".

VB Hornet 09-12-2025 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3948560)
Actions have consequences. I am sure Andrew will be suspended for a bit and will end up keeping his job. He’s an ALPA status rep and will have a lot of resources to help defend him. His comments along with others on the left are uneducated and quite disgusting.

I hope you are wrong. I can't imagine working with him or the public knowing that he was flying a jet.

11atsomto 09-12-2025 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by AirportJunkie (Post 3948561)
Kirk’s stance and any stance allowing unfettered and unrestricted use of the 2nd amendment puts you, me, very ironically him at greater risk of getting unnecessarily murdered by someone who has no record with a gun.

This is AIRLINE PILOT CENTRAL and The Title of this Thread is NOT: Charlie Kirk good or Bad? It's: LAX rep social media rant.......and thats kinda why we are talking about it

I m going to be honest, prior to this week I had no idea who Charlie Kirk was, I also had no idea the name of the LAX LEC vice chairman was. As of Friday Friday evening I know both of these things.

I still don't really know much about Charlie Kirk other than the news has called him a "right wing activist" or a "conservative activist"......so let me ask you if a "left wing activist" was assassinated, and an LEC rep posted something similar as AS..........do you think they'd ever fly a plane with a blue globe on it again?..........


I think WE ALL know the answer to that question, so I don't see why the outcome should differ.

Andy 09-12-2025 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by AirportJunkie (Post 3948561)
Kirk’s stance and any stance allowing unfettered and unrestricted use of the 2nd amendment puts you, me, very ironically him at greater risk of getting unnecessarily murdered by someone who has no record with a gun. Until many of you can realize that there are far to many guns in the US, acts like this will continue to happen.

The UK outlawed firearm ownership (except in certain circumstances). Google 'Ronan's Law' to see where banning firearms leads.
A particular type of weapon is not the problem. Just ask Iryna Zarutska's family if she'd still be alive if for a ban on firearms.

DogPit 09-12-2025 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by AirportJunkie (Post 3948563)
Nice cliche. There is plenty of data pointing out that the number of guns is clearly a problem.

It is not a cliche at all. Show all your data.

FriendlyPilot 09-12-2025 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3948566)
so let me ask you if a "left wing activist" was assassinated, and an LEC rep posted something similar as AS..........do you think they'd fly a plane again?

He'd never fly again. There is a double standard. Leftists called for Trump to be burned, killed, and numerous other things his entire first term and none of them were removed from Twitter. Milo said one of the women in Ghostbusters was a terrible actress and called her an "Ape"and he was permanently banned immediately. There are two standards and we all know it.

tengssuuciurta 09-12-2025 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by PopperLover (Post 3948556)
it was already answered in my original comment. You guys should learn to read.

Interesting username choice.

ClncClarence 09-12-2025 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3948562)
Yes, this wouldn’t have happened if guns were illegal. Guess we should make murder illegal too and maybe this wouldn’t have happened.

I own several firearms, support the second amendment, have gone hunting, have a CCW, and am a member of the ‘special club’, but when I hear this argument I can’t help but cringe because it’s insanely obtuse and intellectually dishonest.

Name a single other ‘western’ nation that has outlawed guns where things like this happen. To pretend like our culture in this country as well as the lax laws around firearms do not contribute to the problem is insane.

There’s a happy medium somewhere but neither side is actively looking to find it.

FriendlyPilot 09-12-2025 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3948562)
Yes, this wouldn’t have happened if guns were illegal. Guess we should make murder illegal too and maybe this wouldn’t have happened.

Remember how we stopped the drug epidemic by making drugs illegal?

DownSideUp 09-12-2025 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3948560)
Actions have consequences. I am sure Andrew will be suspended for a bit and will end up keeping his job. He’s an ALPA status rep and will have a lot of resources to help defend him. His comments along with others on the left are uneducated and quite disgusting.

I will never fly with Andrew. More importantly, how could anyone fly with this guy knowing that he may hate everything about you and want you ‘un-alived’? I’m not willing to take that risk (and neither should UAL).

FriendlyPilot 09-12-2025 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 3948576)
So just to be clear the official United Airlines and ALPA stance is to honor, defend and lionize the person who said “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.” (– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024), but if you speak out against that person you will be fired?

Make it make sense!

TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. Just like Trump called white supremacists "very fine people".

The context is that he's saying OTHER people will think that. He immediately says after saying this when asked about what he though about this Kirk says "that's not who I am. That's not what I believe."

He then says "it also creates unhealthy thinking patterns. I don't wanna think that way. And no one should"

If you have listened to him at all you'd know none of this is true. He's just not super left, so obviously he's a "white supremacist" LOL.

Taxes are too high? Must be a white supremacist.

Government is too big? Also white supremacy

Voter ID. Clearly white supremacy.


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