Kirby Dipping Into Politics/End the Shutdown
 

Kirby is dipping into politics to end the shutdown. Let's hope he puts in the same energy for our contract.

In Unity...

Given that our 4-year contracts are typically in effect for eight years I doubt if he’s even given that any thought at this point.

Are we in section 6 and I missed it?

He’s not “dipping” into politics… what he said was pass a clean CR and get the govt reopen, and pay ATC and TSA before minor problems become big ones.

OP can’t handle that SK was in the same room as the Vice President (Robert Isom was there too).

deep breaths, it’s going to be ok. SK isn’t wearing a MAGA hat and forcing you to vote for Republicans.

Lacks the supersize presence & booming base of his mentor but who doesn’t. 40m annual compensation for an eye popping quarterly earnings statement, he can well afford to share alarm over congressional gamesmanship and damage thereof. For whatever one may like or not like about the CEO, in no way is there evidence of being a shill for any political party line.

I've lost track, is Kirby a woke snowflake tranny, or is he a MAGA bootlicker?

the prolonged shutdown WILL eventually affect the airline so it’s of interest to a CEO of the world’s largest airline don’t ya think

I’m surprised it’s been closed this long. I believe that it won’t go more than a week or two into November. SNAP will be suspended on 11/1 and that’s a lot of ****ed off citizens. So I don’t think it’ll effect us too much, but any longer than a month and we might see a nasty decline real quick. Praying that government reopens quickly

Disclaimer: This is not a political post, just addressing that congress’ actions have consequences.

“Please run the government” isn’t all that political unless you’re debating anarchists

Wut? Good to see he was there.

What grinds my gears is that while millions of people go without pay, the as$ hat clowns in Washington (both parties) are still being paid.
Cut their pay off as well and see how fast this sh!t gets resolved.
Its ridiculous.

This is going to go the distance as neither side is going to want to meet in the middle. It’s all or nothing…. Damn those people who are going to negatively impacted by the shutdown….

The CR is clean, it funds everything as per status quo AND exactly how a previous CR was voted for by both parties in March. This is political theater, Dems aren’t asking to meet in the middle, they’re asking to change funding to what they want.

what exactly is “the distance?”

For 22m million families used to collecting a median $356 snap credit monthly it literally means no pork in the pan. Budget blocking reps are going all in on a losing hand. Something bare midriff Scotty is well aware of.

No matter the side of the political spectrum, it’s best to get fully open again. As an airline, it’s even more important to reduce unnecessary ATC delays.

Other than that, not really hurting me.

As a fallback, a clean CR is sitting there, fund the gov’t at status quo, debate the rest forever.

Republicans have to want to negotiate as well…. It takes two to tango.

the Dems have use the exact same playbook that Republicans have used in the past to force a shutdown and forced the Dems to the table to negotiate.

Either way, both sides of the aisle need to sit down meet in the middle if the government going to get open. It’s called compromise, something that lacking in governance for very long time….

“Meeting in the middle” is and has always been a ridiculous negotiating strategy, encouraging both sides to inflate their demands to the point where “meeting in the middle” will really give them what they aspired to all along. It is a recipe for gridlock as it deepens divisions.

The median net worth of a congressman is $1.3 million. Congressmen don't get rich from their congressional salaries.


Kirby is just playing the exact same quid pro quo game the administration is demanding from CEO's. Want a favorable ruling? Better donate to the White House Ballroom. Don't want your stock to be tanked? Better give the federal government a chunk of your company. The president is personally suing you? Better pay him a few million to make it all go away. I don't see what the big deal is though, this is obviously what the founding fathers had in mind!!!!

Mount Vernon & Monticello didn’t come cheap. Even if their imported labor did after freight.

Naw, disagree. What we are seeing here is the my way or the highway approach to governance at the moment. That is leading to division.

We are not seeing a collaborative effort from both sides of the aisle to come to an agreement. Both sides have their heels dug in their dirt.

This is my last comment on the matter…

As Fetterman has stated, the way to enact your party’s program is to get people to vote for you, not to hold those voters hostage.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/30/polit...-shutdown-snap

Shutdowns didn’t work well for the Repubs when they were in the minority and they won’t work well for the Dems now.

That’s MY last comment on the matter.

3 pages and not locked yet. Impressive.

What exactly is the motivation to compromise when 90-ish% of districts are drawn to not be competitive??

There’s nothing to negotiate with a clean CR. The items the Dems are looking to fund will take some time. Approved CR and get to negotiating. Very easy.

The babies want their diapers changed, and they will scream, lie, cry, and hold everyone hostage to get what they want.

Only problem is in this era in politics where no one trusts the other side and thinks the other side is the enemy, Dems don't trust the GOP in a "promise" of a vote or talks on healthcare.

Not justifying anything, but that's the political environment we currently are in.

Why did they trust them all the other times they voted for the exact same CR?

The current healthcare policy (ACA) is a mess. Throwing more money at it isn't going to make the system better. Remember ACA isn't about "health care". Its about "health insurance".

We all know politicians don't make a big fuss about something until the something is about to expire/lapse to make us all pawns in this stupid ego game.

Like they care about their gov paychecks .. to would venture to say most if not all have other income streams which is why they stay in politics.. to line thei pockets

You say that as if the entire American healthcare system isn’t a complete dumpster fire. But hey, universal healthcare is such a complicated subject that only every other first world country has it. Maybe the greatest superpower in the world might figure it out one day!

When I was in Germany this summer I commented to one of the tour guides that she must enjoy having free access to healthcare. She said its not free they take 21% of her paycheck before her regular income taxes to pay for her "free" healthcare. This is for her premiums as well as long-term care which all Germans are forced to pay into.

I guess that explains why the people with unlimited cash come to the US for their specialized procedures.

It’s universal sub-standard healthcare. People like us wouldn’t see the doctors under the socialized system.

You’re already seeing that creep here today where the most sought after physicians don’t accept insurance. Dolla bills y’all.

and this is different from section 6 negotiations how?

Several articles today about Kirby warming up to this admin to grease the skids on a JetBlue merger. Does certainly appear to be the case at least a bit.

I wonder if they let JetBlue do it's thing for another year or two and after United pays down more debt they pull the trigger with a friendly admin.

This reminds me of the proverb… “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”.

section 6 doesn’t force people to go to work an not get paid