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Originally Posted by JackTheTipper
(Post 3967401)
So I’m going to be stuck on the bottom and my buddies left to be furloughed next year when F9 finally goes bankrupt. Awesome.
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Originally Posted by St Exupery
(Post 3967481)
This makes the most sense to me as well. Kirby has said previously that they have “a lot of off ramps” with the large order book. I’ve taken that to mean they can retire the old and less efficient Airbus and 737 NGs as well as the 756 fleet whenever it makes sense. When I saw the orders years ago, it seemed too ambitious, but the plan seems to be fill up the order book so the competitors can’t get new planes for a long time. Use the new airplanes for growth until the economy tanks, then retire the old fleets and the hope the efficiency of the new airplanes will cover some losses during the downturn. The questions is, what do you do with all the pilots on the seniority list?
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Originally Posted by St Exupery
(Post 3967481)
The questions is, what do you do with all the pilots on the seniority list?
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As of today the most junior NBCA awarded in this bid will be a 14.3XX number (I'd guessed 15.0XX) which is about an early 2023 hire, probably Jan -Feb 2023. Most junior WBFO will be a 13.2XX number which I'm guessing is a mid 2022 hire. So, about 3 years to NBCA and 3.5 years to WBFO (if you were lucky enough to be hired in the 2022-23 era).
The folks hired between Oct 2023 and March 2024 (the brief window when CA slots were awarded during indoc) hit such a jackpot. Then again, they will be on bottom reserve for a very very very long time... As for me, I'm just going to enjoy being (approximately) under 30 pct in BES while waiting for next winter's vacancy... |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 3967570)
As of today the most junior NBCA awarded in this bid will be a 14.3XX number (I'd guessed 15.0XX) which is about an early 2023 hire, probably Jan -Feb 2023. Most junior WBFO will be a 13.2XX number which I'm guessing is a mid 2022 hire. So, about 3 years to NBCA and 3.5 years to WBFO (if you were lucky enough to be hired in the 2022-23 era).
The folks hired between Oct 2023 and March 2024 (the brief window when CA slots were awarded during indoc) hit such a jackpot. Then again, they will be on bottom reserve for a very very very long time... As for me, I'm just going to enjoy being (approximately) under 30 pct in BES while waiting for next winter's vacancy... |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 3967570)
As for me, I'm just going to enjoy being (approximately) under 30 pct in BES while waiting for next winter's vacancy...
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Is there any real reason to speculate on hiring projections getting halved or are people just unhappy that there's not as many CA slots as they were expecting?
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
(Post 3967622)
Is there any real reason to speculate on hiring projections getting halved or are people just unhappy that there's not as many CA slots as they were expecting?
the company hyped this as a huge bid. It’s not huge |
Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
(Post 3967622)
Is there any real reason to speculate on hiring projections getting halved or are people just unhappy that there's not as many CA slots as they were expecting?
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Originally Posted by VacancyBid
(Post 3967627)
the latter.
the company hyped this as a huge bid. It’s not huge |
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