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ClappedOut145 12-29-2025 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by HELLAS (Post 3986434)
Hi gents, anyone knows how many newhire classes will UAL have this month? TYIA

Two classes with about 67 total pilots.

OFFCOURSE 12-29-2025 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by EjetTaxi (Post 3978660)
I've done VEC a majority of this year and it's been fantastic. I'd say 95hrs credit in a non-vacation month would be on the lower end for me. Granted I'm the #1 RSV in my BES so I'm pretty aggressive in grabbing SCs to avoid flying. If anyone have Qs about it I'd be happy to help.


Only applicable if you are fortunate enough to live in base. Don’t try this as a commuter .

KnightNight 12-29-2025 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 3986414)
(listed by system seniority percentage)

NBCA - low 70s
WBFO - mid 60s
WBCA - mid 20s

This is combined SFO numbers from several recent bids - some had more of one category than the other. How long it will take to reach X% system seniority varies a lot.

However that’s not what the systemwide juniors are even since new contract

MasterOfPuppets 12-29-2025 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3986562)
However that’s not what the systemwide juniors are even since new contract

and that’s not the question that was asked.

KnightNight 12-29-2025 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3986563)
and that’s not the question that was asked.

I know, my point is more that a vacancy award is not really reflective of what longevity it takes to hold a BES. For instance tho past vacancy there weren’t any NBCA in ORD but the Airbus backfill went to 8200. That doesn’t really reflect accurately that it takes that many years to hold NBCA on the bus.

VacancyBid 12-29-2025 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3986568)
I know, my point is more that a vacancy award is not really reflective of what longevity it takes to hold a BES. For instance tho past vacancy there weren’t any NBCA in ORD but the Airbus backfill went to 8200. That doesn’t really reflect accurately that it takes that many years to hold NBCA on the bus.

a single vacancy yes. I hunted through several bids to find a situation where dozens were awarded. It wasn’t an exhaustive search but it smoothed things out a but.

i think those numbers are probably representative of post 2023 norms. Reserve is decent and they aren’t hiring 20% of the airline in 1 year

MasterOfPuppets 12-29-2025 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3986568)
I know, my point is more that a vacancy award is not really reflective of what longevity it takes to hold a BES. For instance tho past vacancy there weren’t any NBCA in ORD but the Airbus backfill went to 8200. That doesn’t really reflect accurately that it takes that many years to hold NBCA on the bus.

i think it kind of does….NBCA and WBFO went massively Junior in a different era under an old contract. Since then it has gone a lot more senior based on company percentage.

Its going to stay there. Hell our WBCA plug has been the plug for 2 years. Nothing is getting more junior in foreseeable future.

Chimpy 12-30-2025 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3986466)
Two classes with about 67 total pilots.

this is for December or January?

EjetTaxi 12-30-2025 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by OFFCOURSE (Post 3986551)
Only applicable if you are fortunate enough to live in base. Don’t try this as a commuter .

Correct. Definitely not commuter friendly.

KnightNight 12-30-2025 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3986573)
i think it kind of does….NBCA and WBFO went massively Junior in a different era under an old contract. Since then it has gone a lot more senior based on company percentage.

Its going to stay there. Hell our WBCA plug has been the plug for 2 years. Nothing is getting more junior in foreseeable future.

I agree, but I also think there’s a bit of FOMO going on in some bases especially ORD where I am at. It’s amazing how people change their bidding thoughts when the opportunities decrease. It’s still a time of unprecedented movement , ride the wave with a smile!


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