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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 3978533)
Yes, very true! Especially those VEC reserve lines...
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
(Post 3978538)
“What does being senior mean?, well it means many things to different people across all fleets and categories but generally that means not working from Saturday morning to up until dinner time Sunday night.” - Gene Kowalski. PBS Guru and IAD 757/767 Capt!
Weird flying with dudes that can hold the holidays off by a mile and still choose to work those days. Especially with a young family. But who am I to judge lol they’re out there doing the Lord’s work for the junior guys 😂 |
Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 3978567)
Maybe an uptick, but 1 is infinitely more than zero. It doesn’t mean very many are doing so when basically all of them can hold captain everywhere.
Not sure about that. We have a lot of WBFOs hired in '23-'24 who can't hold NBCA anywhere... |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 3978583)
Not sure about that. We have a lot of WBFOs hired in '23-'24 who can't hold NBCA anywhere...
The reality is that a lot of fence sitters, predominantly NBFOs, who are now bidding NBCA because they assumed that there were always going to be open slots. I think this a return to normalcy and a 3-5+ year wait is a very good general estimate of what the upgrade picture will look like. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 3978596)
Yeah he just pulled that out of his you know what. There are plenty of WBFOs who got assigned it out of indoc or bid it before they started getting senior who can't bid NBCA.
The reality is that a lot of fence sitters, predominantly NBFOs, who are now bidding NBCA because they assumed that there were always going to be open slots. I think this a return to normalcy and a 3-5+ year wait is a very good general estimate of what the upgrade picture will look like. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 3978596)
Yeah he just pulled that out of his you know what. There are plenty of WBFOs who got assigned it out of indoc or bid it before they started getting senior who can't bid NBCA (right now).
The reality is that a lot of fence sitters, predominantly NBFOs, who are now bidding NBCA because they assumed that there were always going to be open slots. I think this a return to normalcy and a 3-5+ year wait is a very good general estimate of what the upgrade picture will look like. |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 3978388)
• Most junior WBFO in this bid is an 8.3 number, or 45% system seniority. I believe that's a 2018-ish hire (34XXX employee number) but my ability to correlate DOH to seniority number isn't very accurate for pre-pandemic hires, so perhaps someone with better knowledge can weight in? |
You guys are quoting the date of hire of pilots awarded WB positions on a vacancy bid where no WB positions were even offered. That will give you a wildly inaccurate timeline to hold WBFO or WBCA.
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Originally Posted by FlyPanAm
(Post 3978621)
You guys are quoting the date of hire of pilots award WB positions on a vacancy bid where no WB positions were even offered. That will give you a wildly inaccurate timeline to hold WBFO or WBCA.
Bottom line is there are a lot of doomer pilots that are super negative about everything and if a bid only has 1 backfill on the 787 FO in DEN with a 2000 hire date they claim it now take "25 years to hold WBFO in DEN" for the reason you mention. |
Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 3978606)
Huh? These are just numbers straight from CCS. Anyone can see them.
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