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GPullR 12-05-2025 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3977044)
I guess, I should have just asked “Do you find that surprising that DEN 320 is snapshotting a 13,800——-?”
….and “do you find others reactions to such seniority holding left seat bus (either as they predicted or with shock) suprising?”

13385 last 2 days so dont let facts get in the way.

Guppydriver95 12-06-2025 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3977020)
Agreed 100 percent. There's a lot of switch flipping in that seat, that's for sure...

And walk arounds, box loading, performance, runway changes, etc. Hard isn’t the right word, but the seat can get task saturated in a hurry. Definitely the busiest seat at the airline.

JackReacher 12-06-2025 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3977049)
“regional flying” comment grinds my gears. If this flying wasn’t at mainline many of us wouldn’t be here at mother U. We fought/advocated for years to bring the flying back in house and now we complain about it.

My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages

Dude, you know pilots would complain that the bag of $100s is too heavy!! And 3 legs are too many?!? I routinely did 6 to 8 legs a day at the regionals 20 years ago for a hell of a lot less money. Perspective people!! Perspective.

FriendlyPilot 12-06-2025 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3977167)
13385 last 2 days so dont let facts get in the way.

Still well into post pandemic hires from 2022. Only 3 years ago. Much more junior than the "post pandemic hires missed the CA upgrade window". Also that we had another vacancy when last months was "the last one until next fall" which is turning into "there will be monthly clean up vacancies".

kevin18 12-06-2025 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3977049)
“regional flying” comment grinds my gears. If this flying wasn’t at mainline many of us wouldn’t be here at mother U. We fought/advocated for years to bring the flying back in house and now we complain about it.

My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages

The ones calling it regional flying would probably happily give up on scope too much like the predecessors did to create the regionals.

Turbosina 12-06-2025 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3977377)
Still well into post pandemic hires from 2022. Only 3 years ago. Much more junior than the "post pandemic hires missed the CA upgrade window". Also that we had another vacancy when last months was "the last one until next fall" which is turning into "there will be monthly clean up vacancies".

Quit putting words into people's mouths. Post an example of someone declaring that the post covid hires missed the upgrade window. Or someone stating that last months vacancy bid was the absolute last bid until next fall.

Guppydriver95 12-06-2025 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3977357)
Dude, you know pilots would complain that the bag of $100s is too heavy!! And 3 legs are too many?!? I routinely did 6 to 8 legs a day at the regionals 20 years ago for a hell of a lot less money. Perspective people!! Perspective.

20 years ago is the key phrase here. Those 6-8 leg days are a young person’s game. What I could do then and can do now without complete exhaustion are 2 different animals.

FriendlyPilot 12-06-2025 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3977425)
Quit putting words into people's mouths. Post an example of someone declaring that the post covid hires missed the upgrade window. Or someone stating that last months vacancy bid was the absolute last bid until next fall.

OK here's one of them...


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Its a monthly vacancy bid. Nobody ever said this was the last bid for a year.


Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 3967744)
That’s pretty much exactly what they said. They spent a long time explaining why there was not an October bid and how they were shifting strategy to offer all narrow body captain bids for the upcoming year in a single bolus.

So when I say its not the last bid for a year and they respond with "That's pretty much what they said" and then back it up with "all narrowbody captain bids for the upcoming year in a single bolus" pretty much means exactly that. Even pointing out that "they" (crew resources) explained this, which isn't anywhere near what was explained.

So you can imagine my surprise when other pilots are echoing this to me when I asked them why they are upgrading etc they literally said the exact same thing. They heard it was "the last bid".

FriendlyPilot 12-06-2025 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3977425)
Quit putting words into people's mouths. Post an example of someone declaring that the post covid hires missed the upgrade window. Or someone stating that last months vacancy bid was the absolute last bid until next fall.

Here's a wrong upgrade predictions.


Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 3886063)
Things have changed. NBCA vacancies are very slim and going senior. It will take a few years to shake out and then presumably it might approach some sort of sustainable pattern which is very likely to be 5-10 years to captain and much longer to lineholding captain. There's really no reason a seniority based 30-year career would have people making captain shortly after hire.

So 5-10 years would be 2015 to 2020 hires...so he's predicting no post-covid hires upgrading to Captain. When in fact over half on the last bid were.

A lot more bad takes in other threads. This was the first I found.

VacancyBid 12-06-2025 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3977460)
So 5-10 years would be 2015 to 2020 hires...so he's predicting no post-covid hires upgrading to Captain. When in fact over half on the last bid were.

Read the part you didn't bold about when that pattern would emerge


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