Yes they definitely don’t like change…….like I said I’m not here to debate which is better. However the company needs to convince them it is, and just thinking about from that senior mamas perspective…….she is getting a good deal ……why does she need to fix something that isn’t broken?, and to fix it she has to learn a bidding software.

PBS could be a LOT simpler. The convoluted version we have is the exact opposite of “user-friendly.” I don’t blame them for not wanting it.

I guarantee the 81 year old types (one was working what they consider a very desirable trip I was non-reving on recently; she’s been here 57 years) are terrified of learning something new and those types are single issue “no voters” (PBS)…..

a mandatory retirement age of 65 plus forced retirement for a consistently poor attitude would help towards becoming the greatest airline in history. :cool:

To anyone bragging about their PBS bidding skills, unless you're super senior and can cherry pick those coveted heavy soft time trips, most of the flying is limited by the pairings themselves. They are constructed in a certain manner. Imagine if there was a way for pairings to be built per our preferences while meeting specific Company guidelines.
Now that would be a game changer!

if you think pbs pairings are limited by company preferences, wait until you hear about hard lines.

Ugghh ………I’m not sure everyone would agree to that statement

Yes very good point Jelly. They also don’t really think the way we do when sizing trips up.

Example: From EWR, generally speaking when we see TLV and when we had the India destinations we saw wide body high time credit.

They just see hundreds of unruly, difficult passengers that treat them like dirt on long flights. Those are very productive trips but Not everyone can deal with the additional stress and are willing to sacrifice a lot of money to avoid it.

Hard lines were always some kind of compromise.

The biggest issue with the vacation, and to some extent the training issue, is people fail to switch their paradigm.

For line bidding, it is all about days off and what conflicts you set up. For PBS, it's all about hours towards your obligation. You want that daily value as high as possible. There is zero good in having vacation that is partially pay only. All that does is pay you for a vacation day without actually providing time off.

A lot of people get hung up when their cheese may get moved. Games always change, so change your game.

Fair point but I think the difference is THEY GET TO VOTE on if they want to change their game.......and they don't want to.