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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
(Post 3991415)
Hey, one senior mama said she’s willing to wait as long as she needs to for a better contract. I think you’re right about this one
I’d be curious to know how many majors have FAs using PBS vs line bidding. If 75% have already gone to PBS it might be in their best interests to focus their negotiating capital elsewhere (work rules). That way if it gets to arbitration you can say “look how unreasonable the company is, no one else does X,Y, and Z but the company is insisting on it.” |
Originally Posted by dingdong
(Post 3991375)
understatement of the year |
Anyone know what the current first and second year pay rate is for united FAs? What % increase they negotiating?
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Originally Posted by AF OneWire
(Post 3991464)
I don’t see how this doesn’t end up in arbitration, based on how far apart the side are.
I’d be curious to know how many majors have FAs using PBS vs line bidding. If 75% have already gone to PBS it might be in their best interests to focus their negotiating capital elsewhere (work rules). That way if it gets to arbitration you can say “look how unreasonable the company is, no one else does X,Y, and Z but the company is insisting on it.” |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3991617)
It’s extremily rare that a union accepts arbitration. Alaska Airlines pilots did it twice and got an ugly result both times. I don’t recall AFA ever agreeing to arbitration.
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Originally Posted by AF OneWire
(Post 3991675)
Arbitration probably isn’t the right word. I could see them getting forced into a contract with the labor board mandating “compromises” on both sides.
To your question, I believe the UAL cabin crew workgroup is one of the last holdouts of linear bidding. I believe the company has preferential in the passenger seat with the seat belt fastened in case they get pulled over for “industry standard” |
Originally Posted by ugleeual
(Post 3991516)
Anyone know what the current first and second year pay rate is for united FAs? What % increase they negotiating?
Not sure second year. 5th year is $38. Top out at $67 But first year is about $10 less than everyone else and pretty far off as the years go on. Top out at American is $84, but that's due to increase per their contract. Will be $87 in October and continues to rise over the course of the contract. Everyone else has boarding pay too. Me no good at math but I'd assume they want to match their competitors % wise |
Originally Posted by prex8390
(Post 3991940)
First year is $28
Not sure second year. 5th year is $38. Top out at $67 But first year is about $10 less than everyone else and pretty far off as the years go on. Top out at American is $84, but that's due to increase per their contract. Will be $87 in October and continues to rise over the course of the contract. Everyone else has boarding pay too. Me no good at math but I'd assume they want to match their competitors % wise |
Originally Posted by AF OneWire
(Post 3991978)
Does American do line bidding or PBS?
PBS. United is (of at least majors and legacies) the only FA group that does line bidding. |
SWA attendants do not use PBS. Their new contract includes maternal/paternal leave, 22% initial raise w/retro, 3% increase per year.
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