Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 4018134)

you can bash some bad apple FAs all you want about not being aware of their surroundings but pilots aren’t the picture of professionalism either.

the other day I witnessed a DH pilot standing at his seat in first class talking to another DH pilot. He was talking so loud all of first class had no choice but to listen to him describe the LOE in great detail, I was 4 rows away from him and could hear him like he was right next to me. He described the emergency’s and the failures in front of people he has no idea how they feel about flying.

Humans are going to do human things when they have no spatial awareness.

Originally Posted by St Exupery (Post 4018121)

There are a ton of reasons why you will never see that level of customer service from a U.S. carrier. The big two are our culture and our labor laws.

Originally Posted by Uninteresting (Post 4018175)

lol-ok, this one time at band camp, eh? even if your story is true, it’s uber rare. fas talking loudly throughout the flight? more often than not. fun when you paid $8k/seat.

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 4018134)

you can bash some bad apple FAs all you want about not being aware of their surroundings but pilots aren’t the picture of professionalism either.

the other day I witnessed a DH pilot standing at his seat in first class talking to another DH pilot. He was talking so loud all of first class had no choice but to listen to him describe the LOE in great detail, I was 4 rows away from him and could hear him like he was right next to me. He described the emergency’s and the failures in front of people he has no idea how they feel about flying.

Humans are going to do human things when they have no spatial awareness.

Originally Posted by Merequetengue (Post 4018190)

You are missing the point. It’s not about who’s doing it , it’s not ideal regardless. If it had been pilots on my flight yesterday , I would’ve said pilots. Now to the last part , i get the “humans do human things” idea, although it’s interesting you don’t really see that same lack of situational awareness play out the same way in places like Singapore or ANA.
Which kind of suggests it’s less about being human and more about the standard of situational awareness that’s expected. Either way there is a problem to fix

Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 4018205)

You won’t see people walking around, with their phone on full blast speaker, screaming into it anywhere in Asia either. Complete lack of awareness is a societal issue here.

Originally Posted by Merequetengue (Post 4018221)

I mostly agree. that is why I said on a post “ Don’t get me wrong I think most of the FAs are great, but for better or for worst there is something not sure if it’s the culture or what that is pushing us back.”

The part I don’t agree is justifying everything with -lack of awareness- i think most of the times people is aware of the surroundings, they just DGAF about other people. Individualism is very common in America.

Originally Posted by Merequetengue (Post 4018190)

You are missing the point. It’s not about who’s doing it , it’s not ideal regardless. If it had been pilots on my flight yesterday , I would’ve said pilots. Now to the last part , i get the “humans do human things” idea, although it’s interesting you don’t really see that same lack of situational awareness play out the same way in places like Singapore or ANA.
Which kind of suggests it’s less about being human and more about the standard of situational awareness that’s expected. Either way there is a problem to fix

Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 4018144)

Love seeing the blue iPad case out on the bar with a hardy IPA pour nearby

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 4018145)

i saw all three pilots with their Blue IPads at the Hofbrau house in MUC.

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 4017747)

Man, ol' N973SW sure looks spiffier these days than when I used to fly her to Williston and back 😂

(The "CRJ450" at the launch event)

Originally Posted by Skyhawk218Heavy (Post 4019202)

oh god Williston…that sure is a place…