Spirit was profitable then relying on a lower wages and junior workforce. Growth means lots of guys at the low end of the pay scale and can only grow so much as a percentage of the network. And then yes the cost structure of Spirit didn’t make sense anymore.

Vacation markets are low revenue and the seats there should be kept to a minimum to fill those points redemptions. An important part of the network still.

Lol. Brooks Brothers Blue was mine and if you don’t know how to read sarcasm then you need to ease up the lacing on your New Balance shoes. Everyone knew that merger proposal was a joke.

So many pearl clutchers on here. You think these discussions aren't happening in the board rooms of every airline in America right now?

correct me if I’m wrong. but even if a customer pays with their points for a flight to a vacation market the airline still profits from that…The credit card company has to pay the airline for that.

Which is the reason Airline analysts even say that with out the credit cards carriers like American would be not make a profit.

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The difference is it’s not being discussed in plain sight in front of the pilots that just lost their jobs. I think if you were in their shoes you’d feel differently.

LAS and MCO aren't just for points redemptions. Those are by far the two biggest convention/trade show/business meeting destinations in the world. Tons of corporate travel, but the yields stay low because of the sheer capacity thrown at those airports. It's a self-reinforcing cycle. Lots of conventions -> Lots of hotel rooms -> Lots of airline seats -> Low prices/yields -> Lots of conventions.

I certainly wouldn't go on an airline message board where airline things are discussed and get mad when people discuss airline things.

The fact no other airline on here has started a similar thread should tell you something…Judge is 100% correct.

surprised he didn’t ask to have the Spirit sub forum removed first.