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strfyr51 04-25-2011 09:34 AM

Look!
It's over and done with now, this is pretty much a moot point! I've got 27yrs now and 33 when I retire. I've NEVER been furghloughed and yet I will baord after active when I retire in a few years. "Cause it IS what it IS" ! Me and the wife are going to DEAL with it. 'Just like you! It does nobody any good to have animosity over4 it..
JEFF wanted managment to board FIRST. But he couldn't GET that and NOT have retirees still riding BP6, So they did what they had to do. It was all tactical and the Pilots weren't screwed because you're not more than 10% of the company. You couldn't have swayed the vote in your favor if you'd wanted to And since it can't be in your contract? All this bickering is useless when you retire? you're not going to like it any More or Less than I do,,(or DON'T!!)

exualmech 04-25-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 984984)
You are not getting the jist. Maybe it is the old age.... You GET 8 HIGH PRIORITY VACATION PASSES A YEAR. If you are traveling more than that then the regular employees SHOULD go ahead of you. We are trying to fit in our trips around our jobs. You guys are trying to fit in your trips around shuffle board tournaments.

Your system at CAL is different than ours so stick to your lousy system but don't screw us UAL employees. Freaking stupid.. shuffle board tournaments? what an idiot..I'm 49 years old, I left UAL to get away from the roller coaster ride, I took the buyout so a junior employee like yourself can have a job. I gave up a lot and wasted my time thinking it was a great career but no you got idiots like yourself running the show. I'd like to use my flight benefits from time to time but to screw me and make an active employee who just got hired board before people who dedicated their time with the company is simply wrong. You were complaining when management had higher boarding priority, now we are doing the same thing. Get it? Make it the same for everybody across the board based on seniority or years of service. It's that simple and it's fair.

exualmech 04-25-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 985030)
But now they just play their shuffle board on the Wii. No need to retire to FL even. :D

Another idiot "you must be Lorenzo's boy"

Lambourne 04-26-2011 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exualmech (Post 985591)
Your system at CAL is different than ours so stick to your lousy system but don't screw us UAL employees. Freaking stupid.. shuffle board tournaments? what an idiot..I'm 49 years old, I left UAL to get away from the roller coaster ride, I took the buyout so a junior employee like yourself can have a job. I gave up a lot and wasted my time thinking it was a great career but no you got idiots like yourself running the show. I'd like to use my flight benefits from time to time but to screw me and make an active employee who just got hired board before people who dedicated their time with the company is simply wrong. You were complaining when management had higher boarding priority, now we are doing the same thing. Get it? Make it the same for everybody across the board based on seniority or years of service. It's that simple and it's fair.

I hate to break it to you....but if you are 49 I highly suspect I beat you in seniority too.

Love how you say you left to help a junior employee. I find that laughable.

Also, I am not a CAL employee. No matter what you think the majority ruled on this issue. Time you understand democratic choice. Your side lost.

An fa relayed on my last layover how she was bumped getting go work by retired employees husband that was in her city for a convention. This guy was using his wife's benefits to do business and super seniority to screw the working employee. That is wrong on so many levels. It is the abusers like this guy that ruined for you and the rest of the "retirees"

L

EWRflyr 04-26-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by exualmech (Post 985594)
Another idiot "you must be Lorenzo's boy"

If you actually read these forums, you know full well that I am NOT Lorenzo's boy as you say. From a union family and a former union representative myself (prior to CAL). You are obviously so serious and angry that you couldn't appreciate a little humor being injected into the discussion. Good that you retired early then. I may not like management, but I also don't like working around a bunch of miserable people either. A certain line by Robin Williams from "Good Morning, Vietnam" comes to mind, but I wouldn't want to be disrespectful.

exualmech 04-26-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 985612)
I hate to break it to you....but if you are 49 I highly suspect I beat you in seniority too.

Love how you say you left to help a junior employee. I find that laughable.

Also, I am not a CAL employee. No matter what you think the majority ruled on this issue. Time you understand democratic choice. Your side lost.

An fa relayed on my last layover how she was bumped getting go work by retired employees husband that was in her city for a convention. This guy was using his wife's benefits to do business and super seniority to screw the working employee. That is wrong on so many levels. It is the abusers like this guy that ruined for you and the rest of the "retirees"

L

You obviously don't work for United and don't know the system, if that fa was going to work as you said then this rule would've applied, which happens all the time with the current system:

In aviation, deadheading is a term used when members of an airline's flight staff are carried free of charge but not working. This most often happens when airline crew are located in the wrong place and need to travel to take up their duties. This is also known as 'positioning'.

Now if she was on pleasure travel trying to get back home then it's by seniority and other boarding priority apply.

As far as early outs, you find it laughable because you don't work for United and don't know what was offered to us to save junior employees from getting laid off. By the way, the company offered us the same flight benefits as the retirees but since you Continental folks took over the management staff, you are making us early outs an "F" boarding priority. Go ahead enjoy your new flight benefits and screw the rest of us, congratulation!

exualmech 04-26-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 985761)
If you actually read these forums, you know full well that I am NOT Lorenzo's boy as you say. From a union family and a former union representative myself (prior to CAL). You are obviously so serious and angry that you couldn't appreciate a little humor being injected into the discussion. Good that you retired early then. I may not like management, but I also don't like working around a bunch of miserable people either. A certain line by Robin Williams from "Good Morning, Vietnam" comes to mind, but I wouldn't want to be disrespectful.

Now I seriously doubt you're a union rep since you don't respect seniority. Seniority for boarding on pass travel like it has always been. You sound like a crooked union rep like some I used to know.

oneflynfool 04-26-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exualmech (Post 985987)
You obviously don't work for United and don't know the system, if that fa was going to work as you said then this rule would've applied, which happens all the time with the current system:

In aviation, deadheading is a term used when members of an airline's flight staff are carried free of charge but not working. This most often happens when airline crew are located in the wrong place and need to travel to take up their duties. This is also known as 'positioning'.

Now if she was on pleasure travel trying to get back home then it's by seniority and other boarding priority apply.

As far as early outs, you find it laughable because you don't work for United and don't know what was offered to us to save junior employees from getting laid off. By the way, the company offered us the same flight benefits as the retirees but since you Continental folks took over the management staff, you are making us early outs an "F" boarding priority. Go ahead enjoy your new flight benefits and screw the rest of us, congratulation!

"Deadheading" is when you are already at work and the company wants to move you from one place to another. This does not apply when an employee is trying to get from their place of residence to their assigned workplace to begin a trip. Please stick to what you know (which appears to be very little outside your tiny world) and refrain from posting Wikipedia definitions which do not apply to the situation.

pipe 04-26-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exualmech (Post 985591)
Your system at CAL is different than ours so stick to your lousy system but don't screw us UAL employees. Freaking stupid.. shuffle board tournaments? what an idiot..I'm 49 years old, I left UAL to get away from the roller coaster ride, I took the buyout so a junior employee like yourself can have a job. I gave up a lot and wasted my time thinking it was a great career but no you got idiots like yourself running the show. I'd like to use my flight benefits from time to time but to screw me and make an active employee who just got hired board before people who dedicated their time with the company is simply wrong. You were complaining when management had higher boarding priority, now we are doing the same thing. Get it? Make it the same for everybody across the board based on seniority or years of service. It's that simple and it's fair.

Are you kidding?

1) You took that early out for your own reasons - we are not that gullible.

2) People that work there, work there -- you don't.

3) None of this matters since you can't ever hope to go anywhere on passes (especially as a family) any more.

PIPE

exualmech 04-26-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneflynfool (Post 986050)
"Deadheading" is when you are already at work and the company wants to move you from one place to another. This does not apply when an employee is trying to get from their place of residence to their assigned workplace to begin a trip. Please stick to what you know (which appears to be very little outside your tiny world) and refrain from posting Wikipedia definitions which do not apply to the situation.

She/He doesn't have to live so far away from where they are based. No one is telling them to move to bum f egypt.


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