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Originally Posted by v1ohno
(Post 945560)
Sore subject. F/C if available or a row of 3 coach seats. Nice. Safety is for sale at CAL.
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
(Post 945580)
Are you serious? Your "rest" seat can be three coach seats?
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Not sure what you mean by "100% 767." Most of our European flying is on the triple with one or two 747-400 trips (SFO-FRA). What concerns me most is who is going to be doing this flying?
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I read last year that Newark accounted for the highest number of fuel emergencies in the country which was attributed to 757 flying to Europe.
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Originally Posted by ryeflyer
(Post 945573)
Good question Lee M! This next few months will see all of this addressed, but I do worry about what the UAL CBA Terms & Conditions will give up. The European flying at UA is 100% 767 with a first class bed for the crew rest facility in BOTH directions. CAL is a two class operation from what I can tell, with #3 only used on Westbounds over 8. No disrespect, but I can see "min fuel" and a poorly rested crew on the Westbounds from EUR into IAD. They had a chronic min fuel situation going into EWR according to their safety committee, why so would IAD arrivals be any better.
Watching with interest. R |
Originally Posted by v1ohno
(Post 945560)
Sore subject. F/C if available or a row of 3 coach seats. Nice. Safety is for sale at CAL.
Re. the crossfleeting, maybe this is a bit of an opporunity to highlight how much their delay is going to cost them. CAL crews flying out of UA bases and vice versa has to cost SOMETHING. The reliability for the flights will drop since they won't have the reserve crews or spare airframes available. That should show up as more than a minor 'blip' on their expense sheets..... As for the apparent widebody 'sucking sound' in EWR.... As a DCA guy, replacing a missing 767 flight with a 757 ain't gonna cut it. The block hours will drop and (I'm assuming the 757 pay will split from the 767...) my base pay will drop. I expect some kind of protection from the adverse effects of that kind of movement! I will accept the SLI results without complaint, I want as few fences as possible, and I want mixed crews to fly as soon as reasonable. BUT I expect that my current status quo won't change too much! That means I should be able to fly the type of trips and schedules I currently fly, I don't have to commute to do that, and my pay will stay in the same relative position on the payscale! Thanks for tolerating my rant:D |
Safety at CAL is secondary to making money for the kings at the top. Of course, our union is absolutely the best friend of management...........just look at PBS (seniority was given away at a MAJOR cost to our pilots.....thanks to CALALPA and the "dynamic bid model that we HAD to have has done nothing but screw us royally))........our rest seat was given to management (thanks CALALPA), and then we complain about how we're being treated after we've negotiated our perks (if you can call them that) away. Funny how we provide management with the whips to beat us, and then wonder why they're whipping us. Every month we're so **** poorly staffed it's not even funny, but then we're told we're overstaffed, and offer JM'ing opportunities due to lack of bodies, along with VRF lines to compensate for "overstaffing". What a joke.............and then the BOD thinks these folks deserve more money................:mad:
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
(Post 945742)
This is one of the MANY important things we must lock down in the CBA!! No way we should go backwards on UAs rest rules/facilities. Heck, we won't even allow a 757 first class seat to be used for rest!
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The only guy that should ever fly a 6 hour four day trip is a reserve. The ONLY.
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Originally Posted by oldmako
(Post 945764)
The only guy that should ever fly a 6 hour four day trip is a reserve. The ONLY.
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