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APC225 05-12-2011 10:25 AM

FA staffing solution: offer a decent contract
 
Why is that always the last thing they think of?

United Trying To Balance Flight Attendant Staffing - Consumer News Story - WJAC Johnstown

On Thursday May 12, 2011, 2:03 pm

CHICAGO (AP) -- The company that runs United and Continental airlines is asking flight attendants for flexibility so it can avoid potential furloughs next year.

United Continental Holdings Inc. says it will soon have almost 1,800 too many flight attendants next year when that many return from a voluntary furlough. But it will be 900 short at Continental.

The company will eventually combine United and Continental into one airline, but until then it operates them separately. Flight attendants at United and Continental have separate unions, and their contracts don't allow them to work on each other's flights. The company is hoping to change that and avoid involuntary furloughs.

jsled 05-12-2011 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 992812)
Why is that always the last thing they think of?

United Trying To Balance Flight Attendant Staffing - Consumer News Story - WJAC Johnstown

On Thursday May 12, 2011, 2:03 pm

CHICAGO (AP) -- The company that runs United and Continental airlines is asking flight attendants for flexibility so it can avoid potential furloughs next year.

United Continental Holdings Inc. says it will soon have almost 1,800 too many flight attendants next year when that many return from a voluntary furlough. But it will be 900 short at Continental.

The company will eventually combine United and Continental into one airline, but until then it operates them separately. Flight attendants at United and Continental have separate unions, and their contracts don't allow them to work on each other's flights. The company is hoping to change that and avoid involuntary furloughs.


Flexibility? FUPM

LeeFXDWG 05-12-2011 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 992922)
Flexibility? FUPM

True!

NewCo testing the water..........

Negotiating in good faith...........Not.

Want to bet if they gain traction they'll try the same tactic elsewhere?

Frats,
Lee

Scott Stoops 05-12-2011 06:08 PM

I know this will come as a huge surprise to those "negotiating" on the company side, but we're all f$%*^ng tired of taking it up the a$$ at the hands of UCAL. I can only hope that the F/A's throw up the bull$hit flag and call the company out publicly. This is going nowhere for any of us, and frankly I don't believe that we'll (the pilots) see any sort of honest negotiation prior to us forcing the companies hand through a release or after all other labor groups settle. Once again, the workers in this industry (arguably the nation as a whole) have been forgotten and/or forlorn. Will be interesting to see how those in control deal with no middle class to buy their goods. And the race to the bottom continues...Too bad we're collectively in such a hurry to get there. I hope the rich build some high walls around their compounds...

Scott

Scott Stoops 05-12-2011 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 992989)
Want to bet if they gain traction they'll try the same tactic elsewhere?

Frats,
Lee

Likely already queued.

Scott

HSLD 05-12-2011 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 992812)
Flight attendants at United and Continental have separate unions, and their contracts don't allow them to work on each other's flights. The company is hoping to change that and avoid involuntary furloughs.

Labor contract, FAA operating certificate - whatever :rolleyes:

kc135driver 05-13-2011 11:23 AM

I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar article in the next 6-12 months when CAL is short of pilots and company wants "flexibility" from having to hire all us "expensive" layed off disgruntled sort.

uaav8r 05-13-2011 12:34 PM

Is CO still obligated to hire furloughed UAL pilots vs new hires after the transition agreement expires at the end of the year?

Shrek 05-13-2011 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by uaav8r (Post 993283)
Is CO still obligated to hire furloughed UAL pilots vs new hires after the transition agreement expires at the end of the year?

Yes. That part of the agreement doesn't "expire".

uaav8r 05-13-2011 12:58 PM

Thx Shrek, wasn't sure.


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