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Old 05-12-2011 | 10:25 AM
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Why is that always the last thing they think of?

United Trying To Balance Flight Attendant Staffing - Consumer News Story - WJAC Johnstown

On Thursday May 12, 2011, 2:03 pm

CHICAGO (AP) -- The company that runs United and Continental airlines is asking flight attendants for flexibility so it can avoid potential furloughs next year.

United Continental Holdings Inc. says it will soon have almost 1,800 too many flight attendants next year when that many return from a voluntary furlough. But it will be 900 short at Continental.

The company will eventually combine United and Continental into one airline, but until then it operates them separately. Flight attendants at United and Continental have separate unions, and their contracts don't allow them to work on each other's flights. The company is hoping to change that and avoid involuntary furloughs.
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Old 05-12-2011 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225
Why is that always the last thing they think of?

United Trying To Balance Flight Attendant Staffing - Consumer News Story - WJAC Johnstown

On Thursday May 12, 2011, 2:03 pm

CHICAGO (AP) -- The company that runs United and Continental airlines is asking flight attendants for flexibility so it can avoid potential furloughs next year.

United Continental Holdings Inc. says it will soon have almost 1,800 too many flight attendants next year when that many return from a voluntary furlough. But it will be 900 short at Continental.

The company will eventually combine United and Continental into one airline, but until then it operates them separately. Flight attendants at United and Continental have separate unions, and their contracts don't allow them to work on each other's flights. The company is hoping to change that and avoid involuntary furloughs.

Flexibility? FUPM
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Old 05-12-2011 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Flexibility? FUPM
True!

NewCo testing the water..........

Negotiating in good faith...........Not.

Want to bet if they gain traction they'll try the same tactic elsewhere?

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Old 05-12-2011 | 06:08 PM
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I know this will come as a huge surprise to those "negotiating" on the company side, but we're all f$%*^ng tired of taking it up the a$$ at the hands of UCAL. I can only hope that the F/A's throw up the bull$hit flag and call the company out publicly. This is going nowhere for any of us, and frankly I don't believe that we'll (the pilots) see any sort of honest negotiation prior to us forcing the companies hand through a release or after all other labor groups settle. Once again, the workers in this industry (arguably the nation as a whole) have been forgotten and/or forlorn. Will be interesting to see how those in control deal with no middle class to buy their goods. And the race to the bottom continues...Too bad we're collectively in such a hurry to get there. I hope the rich build some high walls around their compounds...

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Old 05-12-2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
Want to bet if they gain traction they'll try the same tactic elsewhere?

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Likely already queued.

Scott
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Old 05-12-2011 | 07:02 PM
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Flight attendants at United and Continental have separate unions, and their contracts don't allow them to work on each other's flights. The company is hoping to change that and avoid involuntary furloughs.
Labor contract, FAA operating certificate - whatever
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Old 05-13-2011 | 11:23 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar article in the next 6-12 months when CAL is short of pilots and company wants "flexibility" from having to hire all us "expensive" layed off disgruntled sort.
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Is CO still obligated to hire furloughed UAL pilots vs new hires after the transition agreement expires at the end of the year?
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Old 05-13-2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
Is CO still obligated to hire furloughed UAL pilots vs new hires after the transition agreement expires at the end of the year?
Yes. That part of the agreement doesn't "expire".
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Old 05-13-2011 | 12:58 PM
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Thx Shrek, wasn't sure.
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