Govvie flying job in Oregon
05-23-2011, 08:05 AM
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CH46 Pilot to the Stars
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Position: Furloughed
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Govvie flying job in Oregon
Job lead for any of my West Coast furloughed brethren who may be looking to join me on the government dole as a federal employee. I'm cubicle dwelling, but this is a flying gig in Portland, OR
$73k to start.
USAJOBS - Search Jobs
http://jobs.bpa.gov/Job_Search/9030-11-DE.pdf
Hope this helps. Keep the faith.
$73k to start.
USAJOBS - Search Jobs
http://jobs.bpa.gov/Job_Search/9030-11-DE.pdf
Hope this helps. Keep the faith.
05-23-2011, 08:08 AM
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CH46 Pilot to the Stars
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Forest service hiring too.
Job Title: Airplane Pilot
Department: Department Of Agriculture
Agency: Forest Service
Sub Agency: USFS
Job Announcement Number: OCRP-PILOT-2181-9/11/12DP
SALARY RANGE: $46,625.00 - $87,893.00 /year
OPEN PERIOD: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 to Friday, September 30, 2011
SERIES & GRADE: GS-2181-09/12
POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time Permanent - No time limit
PROMOTION POTENTIAL: 12
DUTY LOCATIONS: 20 vacancies - Throughout the Nation
WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: US citizens
JOB SUMMARY:
Job Title: Airplane Pilot
Department: Department Of Agriculture
Agency: Forest Service
Sub Agency: USFS
Job Announcement Number: OCRP-PILOT-2181-9/11/12DP
SALARY RANGE: $46,625.00 - $87,893.00 /year
OPEN PERIOD: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 to Friday, September 30, 2011
SERIES & GRADE: GS-2181-09/12
POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time Permanent - No time limit
PROMOTION POTENTIAL: 12
DUTY LOCATIONS: 20 vacancies - Throughout the Nation
WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: US citizens
JOB SUMMARY:
05-23-2011, 09:58 AM
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I hate seeing those salary ranges. They seem misleading because in my mind it leads one to believe that they could be making the top end of the salary in short course; where the truth is that the $93,400 is the ABSOLUTE TOP END perfect salary (based on current numbers) that you would ever see after MANY years on the job. The $93,400 is a GS-12 STEP 10 with 5% flight pay and 22% locality (which no where in Oregon is going to get I'm pretty sure). Even that starting pay is suspect. It is just a little below the GS-12 STEP 1 maxed out pay which seems strange considering most other gov't flying jobs top out in that range, much less start there.
I just bring this out because people need to have realistic expectations of the pay before they jump in with both fet blindly.
USMCFLYR
I just bring this out because people need to have realistic expectations of the pay before they jump in with both fet blindly.
USMCFLYR
05-23-2011, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by furloughforlife
How often does the govt furlough? I'll take less money for a relatively secure job, and most likely a management team that values my contribution instead of looking to screw me at every turn.
And don't count on a management team valuing your contribution...
05-23-2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by furloughforlife
How often does the govt furlough? I'll take less money for a relatively secure job, and most likely a management team that values my contribution instead of looking to screw me at every turn.
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Not too often, but almost happened a few weeks back!!!!
And don't count on a management team valuing your contribution...
And don't count on a management team valuing your contribution...
As far as management not valuing your contribution; well I guess that depends on how high up the management team you are talking about. My immediate management (and up to two levels above) seems to be doing a fine job of making me feel apart of the team. So far....I've got no complaints.
USMCFLYR
05-23-2011, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
It DID happen for some - though VERY momentarily those few weeks back that Short Bus mentions; but most felt that it wouldn't last too long of course and that back pay would be given if it did last any length of time. It was a surprise though I can vouch for that!
As far as management not valuing your contribution; well I guess that depends on how high up the management team you are talking about. My immediate management (and up to two levels above) seems to be doing a fine job of making me feel apart of the team. So far....I've got no complaints.
USMCFLYR
As far as management not valuing your contribution; well I guess that depends on how high up the management team you are talking about. My immediate management (and up to two levels above) seems to be doing a fine job of making me feel apart of the team. So far....I've got no complaints.
USMCFLYR
Depends on your office. I know some people who like their managers, others who don't. It varies by office and people. In my opinion, military types seem to deal with the position better. I am not used to how the Government is "run".
But, on the flip side, money, benefits, time off are good. I just got off probation today, and hopefully FG-13 pay is around the corner. (Another "bad"- there really is no traditional airline type of seniority/ longevity system)
They just posted positions in all areas...
05-24-2011, 03:20 AM
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Exactly - that is how it happened with us too.
Sounds like life 
My office / community is heavily influenced by former military, so it has a lot of the same benefits (and problems) as the military, but I think overall a hard working and smart group of people who know their job inside out and are really good at getting the job done.
Well congrats on getting off probation! Tht is certainly one step in the right direction!
USMCFLYR
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
I know people were told they were accepted/ not accepted by that Friday, but as far as I know (at least in our office), by the time Monday rolled around, everyone was at work...
Depends on your office. I know some people who like their managers, others who don't. It varies by office and people.
In my opinion, military types seem to deal with the position better. I am not used to how the Government is "run".
But, on the flip side, money, benefits, time off are good. I just got off probation today, and hopefully FG-13 pay is around the corner. (Another "bad"- there really is no traditional airline type of seniority/ longevity system)
USMCFLYR
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