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Originally Posted by catan
(Post 1132078)
Paybanding is only an issue for SLI. Trying to take from the top and give to another group or cause is a mistake. We are not socialist!!!!
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Originally Posted by catan
(Post 1132078)
Paybanding is only an issue for SLI. Trying to take from the top and give to another group or cause is a mistake. We are not socialist!!!!
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Originally Posted by CALFO
(Post 1132090)
We're a Union. Of course we're socialist.
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
(Post 1132097)
Uhhhhhh, yeah we are. What do you think a union does? Funny how you and others here think that pay banding is taking from the top when most airlines experience the reverse. Pay the top at the expense of the bottom. Or did you forget the 1437 at UAL? Or the 148 that CAL had? Or the frozen "A" fund at CAL? Or the CAL lump sum checks to get the senior guys to retire? Or age 65?
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Originally Posted by catan
(Post 1132078)
Paybanding is only an issue for SLI. Trying to take from the top and give to another group or cause is a mistake. We are not socialist!!!!
November 6th, 2012 please hurry. |
Originally Posted by SoCalGuy
(Post 1132134)
"Someone" who resides in a Large House that sits on a "1600" Block located in the District of Columbia may argue with you.
November 6th, 2012 please hurry. Expounding further may bestow a TOC violation, thus I digress. Just because the word "socialist" was used in a sentence, let's not force this thread to the boneyard by going further down that road. USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by CALFO
(Post 1132063)
Have you ever negotiated anything larger than a new car? It comes down to the bottom line. Every single item in a TA has been costed out to the penny. There is a bottom line number that we can extract from the company and it doesn't matter (in their eyes) where those costs come from.
However. EVERY PENNY SAVED BY THE COMPANY FROM THESE "COSTS" GOES BACK TO THE COMAPNY IN THE FORM OF A BONUS FOR THE NEGOTIATORS. EXTRACTION IS THEIR JOB! Very similar to that $40 million going back to the "company" had you choose not to accept it. Isn't that what youve been told? The next time I'm negotiating for that car, I sure hope you're across the table. |
Originally Posted by SOTeric
(Post 1132141)
Very similar to that $40 million going back to the "company" had you choose not to accept it. Isn't that what youve been told?
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Originally Posted by SOTeric
(Post 1132141)
EXTRACTION IS THEIR JOB!
The company most certainly doesn't give the union a max number, set in stone, to divide up as they see fit. Everything is a battle. Everything is a negotiation when they can't force an outcome. They're in the business of minimizing, while we attempt to maximize. Period. That is what they're paid to do. Scott |
Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
(Post 1131787)
Gotta agree with this one! You don't see the UPS guys chasing the pay since they don't need to! What's even funnier is that a friend of mine who's a captain there got DOWNGRADED from the 75 to the MD-11 to the B747! Interesting eh? And he's still making the same amount of money! THAT is how it should be. Some like the longhaul flying and others don't...............so why should we be penalized (monetarily) for the type of flying we do?:confused:
True, it could be considered "different" flying but as the unions advocated with FT/DT rules, a pilot is a pilot is a pilot. |
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