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Originally Posted by xjtguy
(Post 1155986)
IIRC, early 2006 was the LAST of the P.I.G.S., NOT flow ups/"Shindler's List', they finished up in 2005. I flew with one that went at that time. With the LAST 4 going in March 2006. I flew with them as well. One in 2005 before they (the last 4) had dates, and the 2 others were on their last few trip at XJT. The 4th was hired directly into the training department and had a slightly offset CALEX hire date from the other 3 but was still in the last of the P.I.G. category.
Again, that's if IIRC. But looking at a CAL seniority list it seems to be as I remember.
Originally Posted by EWRflyr
(Post 1156031)
The answer is that it doesn't matter. Our seniority list can't be reordered and your seniority list can't be reordered. I cannot end up being more senior to someone who is already senior to me. The fact is people were hired here at the company (on both sides) under different terms that existed at the time between companies. I am not going to begrudge anyone who was hired under the terms that were agreed to between all parties back then. I have no problems with the seniority list, save the huge group of opportunists who occupy a place on it currently.
That could've been argued by Republic pilots in the DAL/NWA merger but it wasn't because I don't think that reordering of seniority has merit. now if there was a fence or some other stipulation then maybe that can be taken down but not move pilot #5452 to spot #3450 and move #3450 back to #5452. |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1155982)
Don't worry, it will be relative plus or minus a couple percentage points from your current seniority. They will fence the 744 and 787 for 5 years, and that will be it. Look at DL/NW for answers.
"Relative" to what? "Relative" is only mentioned in the merger policy as such: your relative seniority will not change on your own airlines' list. (You cannot be senior to someone on your list that is senior to you after the SLI) DL/NW is based on number of narrow/widebody pilots fit into 4 categories(#WB Caps, #WB F/Os, #NB Caps, #NB F/Os) with some pull/plug. Yes there are fences. DL/NW did not fall under the new merger policy either. There are 3 cornerstones that must be factored in. (No particular order, weighting, and those are not the only 3) But, they must be factored in. I think this horse is dead. 3 arbitrators will decide. But, you already knew that. |
Originally Posted by EWRflyr
(Post 1156031)
The answer is that it doesn't matter. Our seniority list can't be reordered and your seniority list can't be reordered. I cannot end up being more senior to someone who is already senior to me. The fact is people were hired here at the company (on both sides) under different terms that existed at the time between companies. I am not going to begrudge anyone who was hired under the terms that were agreed to between all parties back then. I have no problems with the seniority list, save the huge group of opportunists who occupy a place on it currently.
If there are any furloughed UAL pilots from the early 2000's who where then hired at CAL and are now on the CAL list while also being on the UAL Furloughed list? I know for a fact that we have American Airlines Furloughees who were hired at CAL and now have a pretty decent seniority.. to the point that they are holding an aircraft seat here (CAL) that they couldn't come close to at American. (Not sure if they have even been recalled at AA yet.. and with what's going on over there, who knows!?) I'll bet that there are probably a handful of pilots that are going to be used as examples during the arbitration~ Always Motch |
Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 1156112)
Good post, just one thing that could come up-
If there are any furloughed UAL pilots from the early 2000's who where then hired at CAL and are now on the CAL list while also being on the UAL Furloughed list? .............Motch |
Anybody seen Snoop?
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1156097)
fwiw, evidently the kids these days use the term "BOOK IT!"
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1156099)
Alright, I've got to ask. What is P.I.G.S?.............
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Originally Posted by CALFO
(Post 1156047)
What does IIRC mean?
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1156099)
Alright, I've got to ask. What is P.I.G.S? I was a low E2000 number but left right after the flow backs had left but before that new flow ever kicked in.
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Well bummer, I always wanted to be a pig. :D
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Originally Posted by FACSofLife
(Post 1156100)
I won't worry. DL/NW is NOT "relative".
"Relative" to what? "Relative" is only mentioned in the merger policy as such: your relative seniority will not change on your own airlines' list. (You cannot be senior to someone on your list that is senior to you after the SLI) DL/NW is based on number of narrow/widebody pilots fit into 4 categories(#WB Caps, #WB F/Os, #NB Caps, #NB F/Os) with some pull/plug. Yes there are fences. DL/NW did not fall under the new merger policy either. There are 3 cornerstones that must be factored in. (No particular order, weighting, and those are not the only 3) But, they must be factored in. I think this horse is dead. 3 arbitrators will decide. But, you already knew that. Notwithstanding months of vigorous negotiations and subsequent good faith participation in mediation efforts, the parties to this dispute are deeply divided, as is apparent from their respective proposals: Each does little more than stack the deck for their own constituencies in ways that are neither fair nor equitable.7 As will be discussed below, this Board has chosen a different approach, one that adopts a Ratio and Category basis, but with a simplified grouping of aircraft, a “Pull and Plug” adjustment mechanism that addresses Attrition considerations and a limited period of Conditions and Restrictions designed to deal with, among other things, fleet expansion and reduction. In this case, well before the merger announcement, Delta had decided to hire some 400 pilots to staff summer flying. 38 45 Delta pilots, however, had been approved for hire prior to the announcement and some had received various pre-hire documents, but were not actually trained or included on the seniority list until later in the year.39 The Delta Representatives urge the Board to treat all such pilots as though they were hired before the April 14 merger announcement rather than as “Constructive Notice” pilots as of the date of the merger announcement. The DAL representatives contend that because these pilots ultimately were hired as a result of the earlier (preannouncement) staffing decision, they should be treated as if they were pre-merger Delta pilots. Because none actually had been hired and none had been placed on the Delta seniority list before the merger announcement, however, this Board must conclude they do not satisfy the standard test for Constructive Notice. Cases cited by the Delta representatives compel no contrary conclusion. Arbitrators in the 1977 Saturn/TIA40 and 1981 Pan Am/National41 mergers found cause, due to unforeseen extenuating circumstances, to deem certain pilots as having been “technically” hired before the merger announcement.42 But even were one to accept that rationale, the facts here are inapposite. In the present record, we find neither extenuating circumstances sufficient to require arbitral intervention in the name of equity nor persuasive evidence that these pilots were otherwise unfairly treated. The most that can be said for the DAL pilots at issue is that their processing was close to, but later than, the critical announcement date. The Delta representatives also note, however, that, pursuant to a “flow-up” agreement between NWA and Mesaba, seven “Mesaba Hold Back “ pilots have been placed on the NWA seniority list and assigned hire dates prior to the merger announcement, despite their not commencing initial operating training at NWA. They claim this is contrary to ALPA Merger Policy.43 We need not, therefore we do not, seek to review or resolve claimed anomalies in the Merger Policy as it may relate to Constructive Notice issues. For purposes of this decision, it is sufficient for the Board to note that, whatever the propriety of assigning hire dates to the Mesaba Hold Back pilots, there are no compelling grounds for concluding the Delta pilots at issue should be considered as having been hired prior to the merger announcement. The April 14 date is a serviceable deadline, in this case. With reference to constructing the List, the 45 DAL pilots are to be included in Category 4 for purposes of establishing the staffing ratio, but for seniority purposes, included below the most junior pre-merger NWA or DAL pilot on a date of hire basis. |
Originally Posted by TruthHurts
(Post 1155668)
Former CALEX pilots now working at CAL, are terrified. They know the huge UAL Seniority Integration Steamroller is right around the corner. Because of this, they will support the rat Jay Pierce no matter what. He gives them a sense of security.
This member fully supports ALPA and our seniority system. UAL pilots support ALPA and the seniority system. Where as, many former CALEX pilots do not support ALPA but support the small clique of their junior pilots who have seized our union. Many former CALEX pilots do not respect our seniority system and in fact attempt to undermine the rest of us at every opportunity. Those who now control our union are supporting policies that undermine our seniority system. PBS is the principle violator. Our work rules do not respect seniority. ˜. Our union says and does nothing. In fact, J.P. and Dave Owens have helped do these things to us. Their punishment is being promoted to higher and higher union positions. Former CALEX pilots have been causing trouble since coming to work here. Several were so arrogant and belligerent they were terminated during initial training. Today, they are causing incredible conflict problems within our cockpit. Since hiring CALEX pilots there have been more cockpit conflict since the infamous CAL Strike. Professional Standards has been forced to hire more case workers. They are so innundated with investigations that it takes them weeks sometimes months to finalize. CAL union leaders are angering the UAL MEC by undermining the negotiation process. The point being is that former CALEX pilots and those who have seized our union, are antagonistic and causing much trouble. This arrogance stems from ignorance and a sense of entitlement. They respect no one and prioritize their needs over the rest of us. There is no hope for this group of pilots. They are immature, arrogant and extremely nasty bunch. Just read most of their posts. They have an innate hatred of anyone who dare oppose them. It's their way or no way. Their immature rants will be short lived. As I said, the UAL Seniority Juggernaut is bearing down on them and it is only a matter of time former CALEX pilots will come to grips with reality. This senior pilot has long tried to talk common sense with many of our junior pilots. When one on one, they can be reasoned with. It is only when they bunch together (I.E., chat rooms, etc) do they raise their ugly head. In conclusion, the former CALEX pilot has no ally's. They have managed to anger all around them and in the process have isolated themselves into a relatively small group who refuse any outside thought. Most of our senior pilots cannot stand working with them. They have also managed to anger UAL MEC and their pilots. In real terms it's about 1,000 former CALEX pilots v about 11,000 ALPA strong. The most junior pilots of the bunch are CALEX and they actually think they are going to some how wrestle super seniorty. Merger Committee Chairman CA Jim Bruscia is a senior pilot with a chip on his shoulder. He thinks that his PEX pilots got screwed 20+ years ago. His job is to negotiate seniority integration for all pilots and not just a select few. He is not about to give away seniority rights for senior pilots or create conflict with UAL pilots unecessarily by demanding super seniority for a bunch of prima donna former CALEX types. It aint gonna happen. That is why former CALEX pilots are propping up J.P. and his union thugs. They are purposlely dragging out the contract negotiation process to stall SSL talks. In the meantime, J.P. and his junior varsity players are enjoying pay, perks and time off most senior pilots do not get. This is another way they are insidiously undermining seniority. Make no mistake about it, J.P. will scurry away with some management job or promoted within ALPA. In the meantime, those who have been propping him up will be stapled to the bottom of a 12,000 pilot seniority list. Somebody has to be there. Who in the hell do you think it will be -- A 15 year UAL pilot? Dream On. This senior pilot respects seniority and not demands of entitlement. UAL pilots respect seniority and not demands of entitlement. ALPA supports seniority. The AFL-CIO respects seniority. An abritrator respects seniority. The only player here not respecting seniority are a select few former CALEX types. You know the old saying "You cut your nose off to spite your face?" As a senior pilot opinion, Jay Pierce is doing a good job. He is creating anger and distrust among ALL pilots. This will ensure that he and his thugs will be booted out and UAL will eventually run our union. Mature, seasoned, hard line ALPA union representatives who honor seniority will soon be running our union. CALEX will be where they belong. At the bottom of the pile. You did these things to yourself. We tried to warn you but you think that you know everything. You just don't know what you don't know. LOL. |
It appears the "twins" are here: TruthHurts and Once United
Slickties at their best! |
Two "questions":
1.Why fences on the 787 on CAL? UAL had orders in also before the "merger"... 2.I thought the UAL pilots HAD to resign from UAL if they didn't come back on the last RECALL? There was a UAL furloughee when I was at NKS, and he HAD to resign if he didn't go back. He did, and when he got "screwed" at NKS, he asked if he could come back, and UAL said SURE, come in for an interview (and start at the bottom). He is now at Northwe... I mean Delta. |
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
(Post 1156349)
Two "questions":
1.Why fences on the 787 on CAL? UAL had orders in also before the "merger"... 2.I thought the UAL pilots HAD to resign from UAL if they didn't come back on the last RECALL? There was a UAL furloughee when I was at NKS, and he HAD to resign if he didn't go back. He did, and when he got "screwed" at NKS, he asked if he could come back, and UAL said SURE, come in for an interview (and start at the bottom). He is now at Northwe... I mean Delta. #2 really isn't a "question". Its just a statement that you stuck a question mark on the end of. :D I think there were many people on the last recall that were given LOAs for various reasons. If you could show some sort of employment agreement that you had entered into...then UAL just granted a leave. I know several people that did that. Or people would take the recall, not go through training, then go on Military Orders. |
Originally Posted by TruthHurts
(Post 1155668)
Former CALEX pilots now working at CAL, are terrified. They know the huge UAL Seniority Integration Steamroller is right around the corner. Because of this, they will support the rat Jay Pierce no matter what. He gives them a sense of security.
This member fully supports ALPA and our seniority system. UAL pilots support ALPA and the seniority system. Where as, many former CALEX pilots do not support ALPA but support the small clique of their junior pilots who have seized our union. Many former CALEX pilots do not respect our seniority system and in fact attempt to undermine the rest of us at every opportunity. Those who now control our union are supporting policies that undermine our seniority system. PBS is the principle violator. Our work rules do not respect seniority. Management is now cross training pilots to work either cockpit seat. This is probably the most aggregious threat to seniority and is a direct threat to junior pilots. Our union says and does nothing. In fact, J.P. and Dave Owens have helped do these things to us. Their punishment is being promoted to higher and higher union positions. Former CALEX pilots have been causing trouble since coming to work here. Several were so arrogant and belligerent they were terminated during initial training. Today, they are causing incredible conflict problems within our cockpit. Since hiring CALEX pilots there have been more cockpit conflict since the infamous CAL Strike. Professional Standards has been forced to hire more case workers. They are so innundated with investigations that it takes them weeks sometimes months to finalize. CAL union leaders are angering the UAL MEC by undermining the negotiation process. The point being is that former CALEX pilots and those who have seized our union, are antagonistic and causing much trouble. This arrogance stems from ignorance and a sense of entitlement. They respect no one and prioritize their needs over the rest of us. There is no hope for this group of pilots. They are immature, arrogant and extremely nasty bunch. Just read most of their posts. They have an innate hatred of anyone who dare oppose them. It's their way or no way. Their immature rants will be short lived. As I said, the UAL Seniority Juggernaut is bearing down on them and it is only a matter of time former CALEX pilots will come to grips with reality. This senior pilot has long tried to talk common sense with many of our junior pilots. When one on one, they can be reasoned with. It is only when they bunch together (I.E., chat rooms, etc) do they raise their ugly head. In conclusion, the former CALEX pilot has no ally's. They have managed to anger all around them and in the process have isolated themselves into a relatively small group who refuse any outside thought. Most of our senior pilots cannot stand working with them. They have also managed to anger UAL MEC and their pilots. In real terms it's about 1,000 former CALEX pilots v about 11,000 ALPA strong. The most junior pilots of the bunch are CALEX and they actually think they are going to some how wrestle super seniorty. Merger Committee Chairman CA Jim Bruscia is a senior pilot with a chip on his shoulder. He thinks that his PEX pilots got screwed 20+ years ago. His job is to negotiate seniority integration for all pilots and not just a select few. He is not about to give away seniority rights for senior pilots or create conflict with UAL pilots unecessarily by demanding super seniority for a bunch of prima donna former CALEX types. It aint gonna happen. That is why former CALEX pilots are propping up J.P. and his union thugs. They are purposlely dragging out the contract negotiation process to stall SSL talks. In the meantime, J.P. and his junior varsity players are enjoying pay, perks and time off most senior pilots do not get. This is another way they are insidiously undermining seniority. Make no mistake about it, J.P. will scurry away with some management job or promoted within ALPA. In the meantime, those who have been propping him up will be stapled to the bottom of a 12,000 pilot seniority list. Somebody has to be there. Who in the hell do you think it will be -- A 15 year UAL pilot? Dream On. This senior pilot respects seniority and not demands of entitlement. UAL pilots respect seniority and not demands of entitlement. ALPA supports seniority. The AFL-CIO respects seniority. An abritrator respects seniority. The only player here not respecting seniority are a select few former CALEX types. You know the old saying "You cut your nose off to spite your face?" As a senior pilot opinion, Jay Pierce is doing a good job. He is creating anger and distrust among ALL pilots. This will ensure that he and his thugs will be booted out and UAL will eventually run our union. Mature, seasoned, hard line ALPA union representatives who honor seniority will soon be running our union. CALEX will be where they belong. At the bottom of the pile. You did these things to yourself. We tried to warn you but you think that you know everything. You just don't know what you don't know. LOL. |
yep. go Jimmy
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Originally Posted by FACSofLife
(Post 1156100)
I won't worry. DL/NW is NOT "relative".
"Relative" to what? "Relative" is only mentioned in the merger policy as such: your relative seniority will not change on your own airlines' list. (You cannot be senior to someone on your list that is senior to you after the SLI) DL/NW is based on number of narrow/widebody pilots fit into 4 categories(#WB Caps, #WB F/Os, #NB Caps, #NB F/Os) with some pull/plug. Yes there are fences. DL/NW did not fall under the new merger policy either. There are 3 cornerstones that must be factored in. (No particular order, weighting, and those are not the only 3) But, they must be factored in. I think this horse is dead. 3 arbitrators will decide. But, you already knew that. |
Originally Posted by Ontheleft
(Post 1156501)
yep. go Jimmy
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Originally Posted by davessn763
(Post 1156499)
He has risen! The Second Coming of Jimmy Tripson
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Originally Posted by TruthHurts
(Post 1155757)
So, do you think the "Franke Report" is correct? He states that his group of pilots (CALEX) are better educated, better qualified and have better flying skills than established CAL pilots. Do you think this is true?
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Jimmy is alive and well from the grave
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
(Post 1156525)
Don't you mean third?
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Originally Posted by CALFO
(Post 1155696)
If I understand what your saying. And that's a big IF. The Calex pilots represent the most junior pilots on the list. (not true by the way). These pilots control the union. The union has placed Brucia in charge of the merger committee. Brucia is planning to sell out the junior pilots. The junior pilots think they can tame Brucia through JP.
Hmm, since they already control the union and JP why don't they just fire Brucia? |
Originally Posted by implied consent
(Post 1161684)
The CALEX pilots need not worry about the merger. They'll be able to make captain before age 65. I was sent a letter of apology from the UAL MEC last year explaining that, as a UAL furloughee hired in '99, do to UAL's MEC's lack of concern for us I would be stapled to the bottom of the merged list along with the other pilots still on the street. That would put the UAL furloughed pilots below anyone recently hired at CAL and pretty much assures us of a career in the right seat. "Acceptable Collateral Damage" was what the MEC was trying to avoid saying.
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I was a PIG that got hired and I now remember why I didn't go. u guys are your kidding me right, why even entertain this? I've worked in alot of industries and in all forms of capacity and have never come across a more vindictive childly group of people, and by that I mean all pilots not just one group. But u guys need to put your differences aside and place your anger at management not ea h other. For christ sakes!
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blah blah blah...nothing to see here folks move along...
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The CAL express pilots don't control the union but Jay Pierce does.
Even though Pierce was CAL express he was management not a line pilot. The CAL express pilots at CAL were stupid enough to appoint Pierce to many positions and now they might have to suffer the fate of a Pierce controlled union. Brucia is another lone wolf who puts Brucia above all and always has, so don't expect much from him. Jay Pierce gave up is CAL Ex number and he was off the seniority list for some time until CAL management reinstated his number to the objection of our Union (IACP) The IACP filed a grievance and lost so Pierce was reinstated because CAL management wanted him reinstated. From the time Pierce came to CAL he has been working in our union full time and getting paid and more then he deserves I might add. He is truly not one of us. if you cant come to grips with that then just look at the last six years of Jay Pierce rule and tell me what he has done for this pilot group? I already know what he has done to us but tell me what he has done for us? |
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
(Post 1155780)
Thank you! What years did the PFT start and end at CalEx? I know it was PFT in 96-97 but didn't it end shortly after that?
CAL hired the last class in 1990 and started bringing the express pilots over at that time. Which is also around the time CAL stopped bringing express pilots over to cal and started furloughing. The majority of them did not come to cal until the late 90's. CAL stopped hiring around 90 and did not hire again until July 1997. So every pilot that has a hire date from 91-97 was not on the property until after 97. Many of the express pilots with earlier hire dates were not on the property as well. |
Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
(Post 1156287)
It appears the "twins" are here: TruthHurts and Once United
Slickties at their best! |
Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
(Post 1156287)
It appears the "twins" are here: TruthHurts and Once United
Slickties at their best! You got this one past me. I don't think you should go around calling people names - SLICK. Where's your boyfriend? |
Originally Posted by Once United
(Post 1164599)
You got this one past me. I don't think you should go around calling people names - SLICK. Where's your boyfriend?
Let me also educate you on SLICK. Here at CAL every SCAB was given an ALPA pin along with amnesty. If that wasn't bad enough they had a pin party with Duane Worthless pinning a brand new shiny ALPA pin on several scabs including our former MEC Chair. It was a very nice photo op for SCABAS and ALPA. One detail that ****ed off the CAL strikers is when they put the years of service on the ALPA pin which included the years they SCABBED. They also never gave a pin to the CAL strikers but they gave them to SCABS. CAL strikers made their own pin which I have one of those pins. You wont see me wearing a SCAB PIN from a SCAB UNION. If you see me feel free to say what ever you like face to face. We also have a SCAB wanna be on this forum who voted YES for our POS contract and supports your man Jay Pierce and he wears his pin every day along with all the scabs. But he wears a pin and supports every POS contract and every AH in our union including your pal JP. So you and he should get along nicely. So next time you are having an ALPA love fest you might just be hugging and kissing a SCAB. The SCAB is very easy to find amongst us and he will be the one with all the ALPA bag tags neck ties pins hats shoes every imaginable ALPA product. That is because they are scared to be identified so they blend with all the STUPID PHUKS that pretend to be in a union. SCABS never want to face the consequences for being A SCAB. As for Ringle why don't you send him another stupid PM on how to get rid of Jay Pierce. Get rid of him yourself. After all you are Once United. |
Originally Posted by volo
(Post 1164667)
And who might you be DH?
Let me also educate you on SLICK. Here at CAL every SCAB was given an ALPA pin along with amnesty. If that wasn't bad enough they had a pin party with Duane Worthless pinning a brand new shiny ALPA pin on several scabs including our former MEC Chair. It was a very nice photo op for SCABAS and ALPA. One detail that ****ed off the CAL strikers is when they put the years of service on the ALPA pin which included the years they SCABBED. They also never gave a pin to the CAL strikers but they gave them to SCABS. CAL strikers made their own pin which I have one of those pins. You wont see me wearing a SCAB PIN from a SCAB UNION. If you see me feel free to say what ever you like face to face. We also have a SCAB wanna be on this forum who voted YES for our POS contract and supports your man Jay Pierce and he wears his pin every day along with all the scabs. But he wears a pin and supports every POS contract and every AH in our union including your pal JP. So you and he should get along nicely. So next time you are having an ALPA love fest you might just be hugging and kissing a SCAB. The SCAB is very easy to find amongst us and he will be the one with all the ALPA bag tags neck ties pins hats shoes every imaginable ALPA product. That is because they are scared to be identified so they blend with all the STUPID PHUKS that pretend to be in a union. SCABS never want to face the consequences for being A SCAB. As for Ringle why don't you send him another stupid PM on how to get rid of Jay Pierce. Get rid of him yourself. After all you are Once United. (no need to respond - I won't) |
Originally Posted by Once United
(Post 1164873)
You sure write a lot to say nothing. I see you are a friend of Johnny. That's good even the clowns of the world need somebody to be friends with. The "Once United" come from the fact that we were Once Proud of working for United and that was before we married the hores, you call CAL. As far as Pierce is concerned, he may be helping to delay a JCBA because he knows he'll be gone shortly after we get the JCBA. Jeff still needs him. As for you and Johnny, I won't even give you top billing - I just call you Johnny and SLICK!
(no need to respond - I won't) Hopefully one day you will have a friend and I don't mean an empty bottle You most likely are part of your 85% yes voters that are now approaching 10 years of the worst contract in the industry. Yes we have ***** And we have them because our first ALPA contract CO02 in 2005 since 1983 removed all of our safe guards such as a pay cap and bank time. They told us they were doing it to raise our W-2. They also gave us the great PBS which ALPA sold to us as the wave of the future and even told us how well it works at all the ALPA carriers including UAL. Guess what it is the wave of the future for UAL and get used to it because its another ALPA work rule designed to help some one other then the pilots that suffer under it. We were told PBS creates more lines which is absolute BS. What PBS and ALPA did to us was eliminate 12% or our staffing at the bottom of our list. We went from 20% reserve coverage to around 8% and the STUPID PHUKS in our union never understood that and they still don't and obviously neither do you. You have yet to post anything of value and you use your anonymity to antagonize and attack for amusement. Do you drink and then post or do you post and then drink? You speak for no one including yourself who apparently does not exist and you are nothing more then a blank avatar with a big mouth. OK we get Ringle is not your friend and neither am I. And I don't want to be. You are absolutely clueless in your assumptions of Jay Pierce. Do you honestly think JP has to power to slow down our JCBA on his own with no help from those worthless over paid lawyers? WAKE UP for your own good. JP is nothing more then a tool in the ALPA tool box. I refuse to wear a pin given to scabs from a pretend union that gave our retirement to MANAGEMENT. Every group at CAL except the pilots have a healthy retirement including MGT at our expense. ALPA made sure of that. |
Originally Posted by Once United
(Post 1164873)
You sure write a lot to say nothing. I see you are a friend of Johnny. That's good even the clowns of the world need somebody to be friends with. The "Once United" come from the fact that we were Once Proud of working for United and that was before we married the hores - you call CAL. As far as Pierce is concerned, he may be helping to delay a JCBA because he knows he'll be gone shortly after we get the JCBA. Jeff still needs him. As for you and Johnny, I won't even give you top billing - I just call you Johnny and SLICK!
(no need to respond - I won't) BTW why did you send JOHNNY a PM telling him how to remove Pierce? Then you come on here and bash the guy. Talk about Clowns. |
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