Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   United (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/)
-   -   and the HINTS keep coming!!! (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/66939-hints-keep-coming.html)

CALFO 04-25-2012 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1175416)
Better yet demand from OUR reps that they all be ready to act over the next 6 weeks since this is the new critical time line that has been set....
If we are going to attack(and rightly so ) the management negotiator for not being available for schedule talks, and purposely missing schedule meetings then we best not be hypocrites. We have been delayed long enough....

What meeting have we missed. Who says that we are going to miss future meetings? What are you talking about?

LeeMat 04-25-2012 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by LifeNtheFstLne (Post 1175421)
Serious question for L-UAL guys: of all your contracts where a new agreement wasn't reached on the amendable date, how common was it to receive either a signing bonus or retro check? I have heard conflicting info. Merely curious. One of my largest frustrations was that 100% retro wasn't being screamed from the top of our lungs at L-CAL at the end of Dec. 2008. Somehow I don't think they are going to cut me a check for past due wages for what is coming up on 3 1/2 years. Grrrrr.

It was explained to me that 100 % full retro will be dived to make it look as though United did not pay 100% full retro. In other words, 25% retro, 25% signing bonus, 25%? Equity etc. in the end it will be close to full retro. Our other labor groups have "ME TOO" clause in their contracts and this is a way around that...I am not saying I buy all this bull$hit but it sounds as though they are looking at ways to get this done.

LeeMat 04-25-2012 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1175424)
What meeting have we missed. Who says that we are going to miss future meetings? What are you talking about?

The JOINT meetings that are long past overdue! Lets get on with it and schedule these JOINT MEC meetings and start working together for a change. It's JCBA first then SLI not the other way around.

LifeNtheFstLne 04-25-2012 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1175426)
It was explained to me that 100 % full retro will be dived to make it look as though United did not pay 100% full retro. In other words, 25% retro, 25% signing bonus, 25%? Equity etc. in the end it will be close to full retro. Our other labor groups have "ME TOO" clause in their contracts and this is a way around that...I am not saying I buy all this bull$hit but it sounds as though they are looking at ways to get this done.

That's the first I've heard of that strategy, but it makes sense. Don't go getting my hopes up. :D

Blockoutblockin 04-25-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1175428)
The JOINT meetings that are long past overdue! Lets get on with it and schedule these JOINT MEC meetings and start working together for a change. It's JCBA first then SLI not the other way around.

That is pretty rich coming from you guys. Looking forward to your next unilateral action.

socalflyboy 04-25-2012 06:40 AM

Well, I for one am seeking FULL retro..and being just back from furlough and a solid B scaler, it is not a dollar issue for me..it is simply an ethics issue..if you are not gonna pay back retro..then why even have an amendable date on the jcba? these clowns have dragged this out WAY to long...get a big ass subway sandwhich, a couple gallons of starbucks..lock the door and you COULD have a jcba in 3 to 4 days! jmho..

oldmako 04-25-2012 06:49 AM

I love it. JP has turned his back on us multiple times since the engagement yet the one time JH makes a move you're "looking forward to our next unilateral action."

Sometimes unilateral action is better than inaction. I am sick of working for slave wages while JLo lines his pockets and ruins the airline.

LeeMat 04-25-2012 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1175434)
That is pretty rich coming from you guys. Looking forward to your next unilateral action.

Blockoutblockin, I am along for the ride just like you and the rest of us....All I am saying is that it is $hitty ride and I hope it ends soon....What are you saying? Do agree with your EWR rep storming the first and only joint MEC meeting threatening to delay the JCBA as long as possible unless we agreed on pay banding? Lets get this show on the road, enough already!

757Driver 04-25-2012 07:17 AM

Enough chest thumping from both MEC's Let's tell the Jay's to suck it up and meet with each other and get on board. If we need to get released, lets do it.

This is getting really old.

Once United 04-25-2012 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1175434)
That is pretty rich coming from you guys. Looking forward to your next unilateral action.


It is - Thank You!

Why is it that JP is always the last to know and the last to the party. Does he really think this gives him some kind of advantage over the process. He's played this card several times now and at best he comes off as being very slow. Why don't you ask him to get involved with the pilot side of the process and to stop working the company side. He's used his position to delay JCBA and as a result kept money from going in our collective pockets.

He works for Jeff - Not You!


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:45 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands