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pksocal 04-25-2012 08:44 AM

contract 2000. i believe "retro" was the label used.

Blockoutblockin 04-25-2012 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1175452)
Blockoutblockin, I am along for the ride just like you and the rest of us....All I am saying is that it is $hitty ride and I hope it ends soon....What are you saying? Do agree with your EWR rep storming the first and only joint MEC meeting threatening to delay the JCBA as long as possible unless we agreed on pay banding? Lets get this show on the road, enough already!

I've talked to several committee chairman about our union relations with the L-UAL side and to a person they tell me that the prevailing attitude on the L-UAL side is your way or the highway. And, I hear the same story from the flight attendants. As far as contract negotiations go, I don't want a quick contract, I want a fair contract. Keep all the chest thumping on your side - you earned it.

SpecialTracking 04-25-2012 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1175602)
I've talked to several committee chairman about our union relations with the L-UAL side and to a person they tell me that the prevailing attitude on the L-UAL side is your way or the highway. And, I hear the same story from the flight attendants. As far as contract negotiations go, I don't want a quick contract, I want a fair contract. Keep all the chest thumping on your side - you earned it.

Maybe if we ask nicer and more often, Smizek and company will be more willing to ink a deal that is fair.

While we are at it, define fair, and for whom.

Blockoutblockin 04-25-2012 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1175619)

While we are at it, define fair, and for whom.

Look it up and who do you think?

gettinbumped 04-25-2012 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 1175474)
Enough chest thumping from both MEC's Let's tell the Jay's to suck it up and meet with each other and get on board. If we need to get released, lets do it.

This is getting really old.

+1. I think we can all agree there have been enough mistakes and childish behavior from both sides. If ever there was a time to get united, it is now. I'm ready... though I still can't find my hat. But I'll have it before we start walking.

SpecialTracking 04-25-2012 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1175633)
Look it up and who do you think?

I'm not talking Smizek fair. That is obvious.

You said you don't want a quick contract, you want a fair contract. What is your vision of fair? Regarding quick, would you rather enter a cooling off period and 11th hour negotiations, or years of continued timelines and "good faith" negotiations?

Once United 04-25-2012 10:09 AM

You guys let your MEC chair delay the JCBA while trying to get leverage on the SLI - we call you on it and now we are "chest thumping".

It's about time you guys step-up and do something about the delaying tactics of your MEC. If you think everything will be forgotten after JCBA and SLI, think again, it will last the rest of your career.

CALFO 04-25-2012 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Once United (Post 1175638)
It's about time you guys step-up and do something about the delaying tactics of your MEC. If you think everything will be forgotten after JCBA and SLI, think again, it will last the rest of your career.

OMG, you mean to tell me that unless I fall in line with your every demand, the rest of my career will be tarnished. Please safe your chest thumping for management and continue to write your revisionist history.

SpecialTracking 04-25-2012 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1175650)
OMG, you mean to tell me that unless I fall in line with your every demand, the rest of my career will be tarnished. Please safe your chest thumping for management and continue to write your revisionist history.

Are you satisfied with the pace of negotiations?

Once United 04-25-2012 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1175650)
OMG, you mean to tell me that unless I fall in line with your every demand, the rest of my career will be tarnished. Please safe your chest thumping for management and continue to write your revisionist history.

I don't think anybody said that - what was said was once one is caught attempting rape, they'll always be known as a rapist even though they didn't succeed.


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