Delta TA yes
06-29-2012, 07:41 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
Yes Bill, We could just roll over and give in to outsourcing...OR...WE can try to fight it. Obviously DALPA wasn't up for the fight. Somebody needs to make a stand. May as well be us...my double-breasted friend.
06-29-2012, 07:44 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by untied
You need to take a better look around.
DAL has always led the pack in giving up flying. There are other major airlines that we can compare ourselves to.
Not all airline pilots will sell out the future for a small raise.
We need to move away from the "old guy" thinking and start making some progress.
(Just to clarify, my position is that the 50 seaters are going away and those cities will lose air service. The new CRJ-900's will be taking over mainline city pairs. Huge concession by a short-sighted group only focused on money).
DAL pilots have shown how their "hard caps" are easily discarded and changed with every new TA.
This doesn't have to be a disaster for us. We need to get to the point of "self help".
DAL has always led the pack in giving up flying. There are other major airlines that we can compare ourselves to.
Not all airline pilots will sell out the future for a small raise.
We need to move away from the "old guy" thinking and start making some progress.
(Just to clarify, my position is that the 50 seaters are going away and those cities will lose air service. The new CRJ-900's will be taking over mainline city pairs. Huge concession by a short-sighted group only focused on money).
DAL pilots have shown how their "hard caps" are easily discarded and changed with every new TA.
This doesn't have to be a disaster for us. We need to get to the point of "self help".
Either way, the ball's in YOUR court now. Pass our agreement.. we're counting on you.
06-29-2012, 08:16 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You WISH they would FORCE it on you.. it is a good deal.
Last edited by uaav8r; 06-29-2012 at 08:30 PM.
06-29-2012, 08:24 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
Yes your deal is real great T! Great for Skywest, Republic, Pinnacle, and all the other regionals that will be flying your passengers around on those 325 76 seat "jumbo RJ's". And great for your passengers too. The majority of whom will assume that those "big jets" are being flown by Delta Airlines pilots like yourself. Great deal indeed.
We're pulling for ya.
06-29-2012, 08:37 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You have not a clue about what you speak. None. I don't have to argue with you. Furthermore, I couldn't care less about what you think. But the fact is, it is YOUR turn to raise the bar. We will anxiously be waiting for you to do so. You have about 40% to go on pay.. and a long way to go on scope.
We're pulling for ya.
We're pulling for ya.
06-29-2012, 08:55 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You have not a clue about what you speak. None. I don't have to argue with you. Furthermore, I couldn't care less about what you think. But the fact is, it is YOUR turn to raise the bar. We will anxiously be waiting for you to do so. You have about 40% to go on pay.. and a long way to go on scope.
We're pulling for ya.
We're pulling for ya.
06-29-2012, 09:05 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
I do have a clue. So do the 38 percent of your group who realized that you sold out for $$$ instead of fighting for scope. Go celebrate.
06-29-2012, 09:06 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by Dicecal
Talking about clueless....
And FWIW, I'm not bragging.. I seriously WANT you to do it. We need you to do that so we have someone to pattern off of in 3 years.
06-29-2012, 09:49 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by tsquare:1221951
Originally Posted by uaav8r
Yes your deal is real great T! Great for Skywest, Republic, Pinnacle, and all the other regionals that will be flying your passengers around on those 325 76 seat "jumbo RJ's". And great for your passengers too. The majority of whom will assume that those "big jets" are being flown by Delta Airlines pilots like yourself. Great deal indeed.
We're pulling for ya.
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