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SNA320 07-18-2012 08:25 PM

Awarding of Bases?
 
I'm hoping someone can answer a question about how bases are assigned after a system bid at CAL. On the last system bid, there were approximately 10 UAL furloughees awarded LAX 737 FO slots. I was recently looking at a list of people in that base and noticed that the bottom guy on the 737 there was NOT on the list of pilots awarded LAX during the bid. He is actually THE bottom guy on the list and lives in LA so I know he wanted the base.

So my question is, how is it possible to end up in a seat you were not awarded during the "regular system bid?" Does CAL just fill open slots with the "next in line" bidders?

Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.

SNA320

socalflyboy 07-18-2012 08:26 PM

Base trade possibly?

bearcat 07-18-2012 08:49 PM

He may have been awarded it on the system bid, but not staffed there yet. The system bids have 1 year until they are in full effect. Or as stated a base trade.

Coto Pilot 07-19-2012 05:50 AM

I was in the process of doing a base trade with another pilot and he took the base trade away from me, which at Continental, he is allowed to do during the 30 posting period. It was a pilot to pilot base trade which can happen at any time.

LifeNtheFstLne 07-19-2012 06:09 AM

Speaking of system bids... August is right around the corner and I haven't heard a single rumor. Let's start some.

WarEagle28 07-19-2012 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by LifeNtheFstLne (Post 1232140)
Speaking of system bids... August is right around the corner and I haven't heard a single rumor. Let's start some.

Ok, here we go (rumor). Classes are filled through the end of Oct with 100 (of the final 248) ual furloughees. Hiring to begin in September (off the street )with 48/month for the foreseeable future.

War E

SNA320 07-19-2012 11:28 AM

Ok, thanks for the answers guys.

-Coto, sorry he sniped the slot from you, hope you get LAX sooner rather than later.

-SNA320

boxer6 07-19-2012 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by SNA320 (Post 1232041)
I'm hoping someone can answer a question about how bases are assigned after a system bid at CAL. On the last system bid, there were approximately 10 UAL furloughees awarded LAX 737 FO slots. I was recently looking at a list of people in that base and noticed that the bottom guy on the 737 there was NOT on the list of pilots awarded LAX during the bid. He is actually THE bottom guy on the list and lives in LA so I know he wanted the base.

So my question is, how is it possible to end up in a seat you were not awarded during the "regular system bid?" Does CAL just fill open slots with the "next in line" bidders?

Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.

SNA320

Weird things like that could be hardship

Coto Pilot 07-19-2012 01:39 PM

I was told last week that the system bid will come out between mid August and mid September and there will be LAX FO vacancies on it.

SoCalGuy 07-19-2012 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Coto Pilot (Post 1232130)
I was in the process of doing a base trade with another pilot and he took the base trade away from me, which at Continental, he is allowed to do during the 30 posting period. It was a pilot to pilot base trade which can happen at any time.

That is correct......
To add, the "pilot to pilot base trade" can also be 'voided' during that 30 day period if someone senior to you (someone outside the two parties trading) objects/shoots down the base-trade that you an another Pilot have proposed. That 'objection' thus voids the base trade, and this must happen within the 30 Day period of the two Pilots announcing/posting their intentions of the "pilot to pilot base trade".

As far as the OP's question, and what was mentioned above, I would also guess a possible "hardship" as well in that specific case. I've seen something like that very case on the B777-FO in IAH about 5-6 years back. You can also call the CAL-ALPA and clarify the true answer regarding the award is more questions linger.


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