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Flyby1206 08-30-2012 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Wrsofked (Post 1253848)
That is not looking promising at all. So far the leaks have it as a substandard deal.

Ick. Sad to hear. Im far removed but was hoping that the DAL+1 rumors were true

APC225 08-30-2012 05:27 PM

This shows the vacancies if you can decipher it.

Originally Posted by JetPilotMike (Post 1253792)
How many of these FO spots are new/growth?

CLE 737 CA 1 117 115 117 -
CLE 737 FO - 116 114 116 -
DEN 737 CA - 34 78 78 44 Vacancies
DEN 737 FO - 39 77 77 38 Vacancies
NYC 737 CA 7 282 314 314 32 Vacancies
NYC 737 FO 1 277 315 315 38 Vacancies
IAH 737 CA 14 575 614 614 39 Vacancies
IAH 737 FO 1 591 612 612 21 Vacancies
GUM 737 CA 2 68 65 68 -
GUM 737 FO - 60 74 74 14 Vacancies
LAX 737 CA 3 72 82 82 10 Vacancies
LAX 737 FO - 72 83 83 11 Vacancies
ORD 737 CA - 34 73 73 39 Vacancies
ORD 737 FO - 36 72 72 36 Vacancies
737 CA Total 27 1,182 1,341 1,346 164 Vacancies
737 FO Total 2 1,191 1,347 1,349 158 Vacancies

NYC 756 CA 13 304 313 313 9 Vacancies
NYC 756 FO - 419 455 455 36 Vacancies
IAH 756 CA 4 160 165 165 5 Vacancies
IAH 756 FO - 221 200 221 -
756 CA Total 17 464 478 478 14 Vacancies
756 FO Total - 640 655 676 36 Vacancies

NYC 777 CA 10 124 132 132 8 Vacancies
NYC 777 FO 3 324 345 345 21 Vacancies
IAH 777 CA 4 42 42 42 -
IAH 777 FO - 91 91 91 -
777 CA Total 14 166 174 174 8 Vacancies
777 FO Total 3 415 436 436 21 Vacancies

IAH 787 CA 8 38 54 54 16 Vacancies
IAH 787 FO - 98 132 132 34 Vacancies
787 CA Total 8 38 54 54 16 Vacancies
787 FO Total - 98 132 132 34 Vacancies

System CA Total 66 1,850 2,047 2,052 202 Vacancies
System FO Total 5 2,344 2,570 2,593 249 Vacancies
System All Total 71 4,194 4,617 4,645 451 Vacancies

Texandrvr 08-30-2012 05:31 PM

71 retirements and 451 vacancies. So 380 new positions.

Shrek 08-30-2012 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Texandrvr (Post 1253884)
71 retirements and 451 vacancies. So 380 new positions.

Or former L-UAL positions............roughly 10% "growth". Read the TPA - I will give you a guess what the magic percentage that L-CAL can grow without growing L-UAL.

We need a RELEASE soon........

workingforfree 08-30-2012 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1253842)
Interesting, can you not see what's happening here??

It does make me wonder how the new hires off the street would be treated. (I am not trying to instigate--just wondering)

Do you think there will be strife? Negative and possibly inappropriate labels? The "230" or something? Just curious about people's thoughts on this.

Wrsofked 08-30-2012 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by workingforfree (Post 1253894)
It does make me wonder how the new hires off the street would be treated. (I am not trying to instigate--just wondering)

Do you think there will be strife? Negative and possibly inappropriate labels? The "230" or something? Just curious about people's thoughts on this.

They would be treated just fine, just like anyone else. Labels and name calling is mostly done by chest pounders on these forums and in private conversations. This is a major corporation, they don't tolerate harrassment of any kind. I wouldnt worry about that at all. Get your app in, and good luck to you.

workingforfree 08-30-2012 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Wrsofked (Post 1253933)
They would be treated just fine, just like anyone else. Labels and name calling is mostly done by chest pounders on these forums and in private conversations. This is a major corporation, they don't tolerate harrassment of any kind. I wouldnt worry about that at all. Get your app in, and good luck to you.

I agree 100%. Just seeing how people felt.

SpecialTracking 08-30-2012 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1253839)
Either UCH quits ignoring the LUAL side or this thing will implode in a major way.

I dunno Hoss. We must be flying with different groups of L-UAL pilots. Many that I work with will jump right in line once the whip cracks.

I do agree it's worth fighting over and i'm hoping this group will grow a collective pair. If 93 of the 202 Captain bids in our legacy domiciles doesn't wake the beast, i'm not sure anything will.

Disgusted

Wrsofked 08-30-2012 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1253939)
I dunno Hoss. We must be flying with different groups of L-UAL pilots. Many that I work with will jump right in line once the whip cracks.



Disgusted

Sounds eerily similar to the L-CAL side as well. Only, been going on for 29 or so years.

Airhoss 08-30-2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 1253843)
Hiring off the street? Or hiring UAL furloughees?

Im just on the outside looking in, hope for a JCBA for both groups ASAP. Good luck

Noooooo.

They are trying to pull a CAL/ EAL here, growing one and shrinking the other into extinction.


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