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jsled 09-12-2012 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by flybynuts (Post 1259735)
Another spin to this. United is said to be 400 pilots surplus right now. Cal needed 3-400 pilots for rest rules deadline but also for new contract (think combined company may need 800 or so pilots). Contract will be UA work rules plused up a little. If there was a building of one side and a destruction of another, then why bring the 739 order to UAL to replace the 752s? Wouldn't it be better to bring them over to Cal? Maybe it's not be a malicious as we think.

Disclaimer: our mgmt is horrible and are haters of labor, especially pilots.

If you can show me where those 739s will be coming to the UAL side of the house, I would appreciate it. OH, I know what they SAID. The 739s will replace l-UAL 757s. Got it. And they may have even SAID that we would be flying them here at l-UAL. But until I am on IOE, I won't believe an f'n word. Why should I?

Sled

Coto Pilot 09-12-2012 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by thor2j (Post 1259719)
Actually completely accurate. Almost Half those NEW captains are retirements and the rest are still not back to our levels before. You can have your bases and I'll take my 25k a yr pay cut back for loosing 76 flying.

What 76 flying has been lost, I think that 2 767-200's were retired (which supposedly is why the CAL pilots got a bonus), the rest is still there, it has just been moved to Newark.

And 757Driver, I took the job so I could vote no on a contract. I would never have gone to CAL otherwise.

757Driver 09-12-2012 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Coto Pilot (Post 1259760)
And 757Driver, I took the job so I could vote no on a contract. I would never have gone to CAL otherwise.

Wow, what sacrifice just to vote No but I'll more than likely be joining you.

tkhayes90 09-12-2012 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Coto Pilot (Post 1259760)
What 76 flying has been lost, I think that 2 767-200's were retired (which supposedly is why the CAL pilots got a bonus), the rest is still there, it has just been moved to Newark.

And 757Driver, I took the job so I could vote no on a contract. I would never have gone to CAL otherwise.


Right there with you.

flybynuts 09-12-2012 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1259739)
If you can show me where those 739s will be coming to the UAL side of the house, I would appreciate it. OH, I know what they SAID. The 739s will replace l-UAL 757s. Got it. And they may have even SAID that we would be flying them here at l-UAL. But until I am on IOE, I won't believe an f'n word. Why should I?

Sled

Sled,
Couldn't agree more. Talk is cheap, especially from our mgmt and they haven't given reason to trust or believe them. I'll try and see if I can get the info for you and post it. I just don't think the demise of L-UA is there. Maybe spending some time at TK working through projects with L-UA professionals has tainted me.

uaav8r 09-12-2012 09:33 AM

It's obvious....

UCH Plan A: Scare LUAL pilots into YES vote over fear of TPA expirations.
UCH Plan B: Take advantage of expired TPA sections and further shrink LUAL.

...what cadetdrivr said.

Ottopilot 09-12-2012 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Coto Pilot (Post 1259694)
Not really an accurate statement. Over 200 new captain positions and guys flooding to new bases to elimiate commutes. There are many very happy guys right now.

200 "new" captain positions? Or is it the same 200 positions we lost due to age 65? I upgraded in 2007 and now I hold captain again. Thanks UAL, what would I do without you? :rolleyes:

Spicy McHaggis 09-12-2012 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Coto Pilot (Post 1259760)
What 76 flying has been lost, I think that 2 767-200's were retired (which supposedly is why the CAL pilots got a bonus), the rest is still there, it has just been moved to Newark.

And 757Driver, I took the job so I could vote no on a contract. I would never have gone to CAL otherwise.

Newark has lost a ton of 767 flying. All the 200s are going away, though there are still a few in the system.

uaav8r 09-12-2012 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 1259844)
Newark has lost a ton of 767 flying. All the 200s are going away, though there are still a few in the system.

I thought you guys had some kind of grievance or something in regard to the parking of the 767-200's. What happened with that?

SoCalGuy 09-12-2012 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 1259844)
Newark has lost a ton of 767 flying. All the 200s are going away, though there are still a few in the system.

Don't worry, EWR is 'soon' to get it back, possibly more than prior.

IAH is "fix'in" (as them Texans say) to loose just about all it's B767 to have it redeployed back up to EWR.


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