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NotYet 10-12-2012 10:32 AM

CAL A/B Reserve question
 
Say Sunday is a day off, Monday is day 1 of an A RSV block.
I understand A can be converted to B. Must this occur by 1500 Sunday?
If it doesn't, I'm not phone contactable until 0001 Monday, right?,
and then still 9 hour show if still A, right?
If converted to B at 1500 Sunday will be assigned a phone period for Monday, as early as what? If not converted to B at 1500, am a free person until at least 0901 Monday, but must answer phone at 0001 Monday. Eh?
Maybe the clear writing of a new TA will make such
questions obsolete.

Sometimes this is the best place for advice. Thanks

skippy 10-12-2012 01:32 PM

My understanding homie:
A can be converted anytime with either a trip and or the short call window.
What sux is if they give u a 9 hr callout trip at , lets say 2000 sun, good luck commuting by plane in for a 0500 mon show. So many ways to be or get out of position. These rules suck if u dont live in base

tailwheel48 10-12-2012 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by skippy (Post 1276044)
My understanding homie:
A can be converted anytime with either a trip and or the short call window.
What sux is if they give u a 9 hr callout trip at , lets say 2000 sun, good luck commuting by plane in for a 0500 mon show. So many ways to be or get out of position. These rules suck if u dont live in base

If they convert you from A to B, the nine hour window only goes into effect at 0001. So you wouldn't have a show time till 0900. The situation you describe can happen if you are already on reserve, not before your reserve block starts.

Mythbuster 10-12-2012 01:38 PM

The earliest B call windows I have seen start 0300.

tailwheel48 10-12-2012 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mythbuster (Post 1276049)
The earliest B call windows I have seen start 0300.

But not if they convert you from A reserve coming off days off. The earliest they could use you is 0900.

tailwheel48 10-12-2012 01:58 PM

From the contract:

3. Except when released to a Rest Period, a pilot awarded an “A” reserve Line must be contactable continuously twenty-four (24) hours a day, beginning at 0001 LBT of his first Reserve Day.

and

5. An “A” Reserve may not be required to report for a Trip Pairing or to begin a phone availability period less than nine (9) hours from the first attempt at contact by Crew Scheduling, or when he first becomes contactable on his first day of duty

NotYet 10-12-2012 04:26 PM

As usual, disagreement.
Main issue:
can one be converted A to B after 1500 on
The previous reserve day?

skippy 10-12-2012 05:25 PM

Good stuff, thanks people.
I do know and the people have emphasized they will use the a pilots first if possible and use the b pilots as the last option

flybynuts 10-12-2012 06:42 PM

A converted to B before you begin you reserve blocks. You need to check your schedule after 1500. If nothing is on your schedule, print it out and you do not have to answer the phone until 0001 LBT. If they call an try and convert you to B after 1500 and before 0001 before you begin your reserve block, don't answer, your not obligated to.

APC225 10-12-2012 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by NotYet (Post 1276137)
As usual, disagreement.
Main issue:
can one be converted A to B after 1500 on
The previous reserve day?

If you are talking about after 1500 on a reserve day then yes. An A reserve is on call 24 hours a day during his reserve block. He can be called at any time and given a 9-hour break for a B reserve callout window. For some commuters A reserve is essentially useless. Watching TV in Florida at 10pm, phone rings and told you're converted to B reserve in EWR with a callout of 7am. You're hosed.

If you're talking about after 1500 on the day off before a reserve day, then no, as flybynuts said.


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