IAD hub info
 

What equipment does L-UAL have at IAD? How much flying originates / terminates at DCA or BWI? Thanks.

777
757/767
320

Depends on the equipment as to which airport one might fly from.

We cover all three metro airports with IAD being the main base.

777 only has schedule departures from IAD

757/767 is mainly IAD with maybe one a day from DCA and a couple per day from BWI (this is a wag)

320 is about 60% IAD, 25% DCA, 15% BWI (again an educated wag but close enough for the general idea)

It is extremely rare to be scheduled to begin from one airport and end at the other. If something screws up or you get reassigned, the company then has to crosstown(surface D/H) you back to your originating airport.

DC

Riddler....why do you ask? Haha! I bet you're trying to determine whether or not you are buying a house when you PCS to KADW!!

Good luck!!
C17D

Any thoughts of opening it up as a CAL base also? Also, how junior does it run on the UAL side?

14+ years of longevity

Ouch...that one hurt for those who understand the implications.

Rumors of a guppy base in SFO and IAD. Someone said its on the new flight ops news letter but I have not read it yet. IAD base has a good mix of flying on all jets based here.
I am a Feb 1989 hire and have been a bottom line holder for the last 5 years as a B756 capt. (110 out of 160). On the A320 Capt seat, my seniority would be 23 out of 140. The B777 capt seat is not in range but the FO seat would place me 20 out of 300+. Hope that helps a bit.

Lee

Thank you kind Sir! An IAD base would be a big deciding factor if I apply or not. I just don't want to get on and hear "Oh, it's coming soon" for the next 10 years.

I gotta say, us 737 drivers hate that term, "guppy" I can get past the 73 vs 37 or 75 vs 57 but "guppy"........

It's all in the harmonization for industry standardization my bruthah. Good gawd, it even bothers your ramp controllers.

LOL. Sorry man. Nobody's dissin your A/C, It's just what we call it...back in the day the "whale" was the biggest jet and the "guppy" was the smallest. At least you don't fly "fefe" :D

Sled

THis question is a BIG reason why I am voting yes. I suspect that I am not alone. :eek:

Sled

Actually, evaluating a L-CAL 737 base in SFO, a L-CAL 756 base in IAD, and a L-UAL Airbus base in EWR/NYC.

I spoke with Gary Waggoner about this. He is the manpower guy in IAH. He said the company wants to put a 737 base in IAD and SFO. He says this will be done once a TA gets ratified. I did not specifically ask if they intend to place a 757 base in those places...but I could see them making IAD a 757 base, also.

Already have a L-UAL Airbus base in NYC which covers LGA,JFK, and EWR

Sled

This was a question on Trivial Pursuit 20 years ago.... "If the 747 is a whale, what's a 737" Answer: guppy

747=whale
737=guppy
Bus=fifi, (talk about a derogatory term...but what a sweet ride)

It's not a derogatory term, chill. The TA is what's insulting.

Once we have SLI....who cares what base is LCAL or LUAL we will be one airline.

As a newhire it will not matter so much to you...I am sure you can hold IAD as a newhire in the future.

Yes the TA is insulting... In the words of YouTube Larry "Just Vote NO"

The "guppy" thing is like nails on a chalk board.... :(

Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Liquid

Grow UP! The GUPPY is a POS. Worst airplane in the fleet. Doesn't even come close to an Airbus with all it's creature comforts. The GUPPY has no room, can't recline fully without you eating your knees to do so or you can stretch your legs but sit erect! No room for your bags, antiquated aircraft systems, noisy as hell, seat paddings suck, lot of them have no sun shades, etc..... So i wont call it a GUPPY anymore to appease your sensitivities, and will just call it a Piece of S@#$!!!

Thanks for posting and confirming what I have been saying (my opinion) that the company WANTS this TA to pass, and has plans for it once it does happen.
At the same time, I truly believe that they also have TA Plan B and TA Plan C waiting too.
They need this thing so they can move forward with their Fleet/Schedule plans.

Side note-
Interesting thought here. This TA allows for reserves to cover other bases and lineholders to fly other base trips.
Opening up new domiciles will be kinda crazy initially. What better way to staff it than to have crews who are suppose to deadhead back on the last leg of a trip be on the hook for a few more hours!
Or have Field Standby's sitting in a base ready to cover other (new) bases shortfalls~

NO
Motch

Motch,

I've been in training the last 2 months so I'm sure the atmosphere here is different than it is on the line. But the vibe that I get from the people in the training center bubble is that the TA will get approved. They act like its a foregone conclusion.

I can't wait to see what Plan B and C are.

Don't give that place much credence, loyal company group for the most part over there.

My informal conversations on the line indicate this thing could go either way, and be very close. I do think the gloom and doom scenario rumor for LUAL should it not pass, is having a definite effect on them.

Says the angry 737 CAP.... Ummmm no where in my post did I say anything about the comfort, noise level, bag room, systems etc... I simply made a comment on the word "guppy". So thanks for enlighting us on the POS aircraft that is the 737, I might have never known its defects had you not pointed them out(I only fly it 80hrs a month). maybe you should bid back to your precious 756/777/a320/c172.:rolleyes:

Agreed liquid. Yes I don't like the 737 300/500, but I can't complain about the 7377/8/9/er. Not a bad a/c. At least I can recharge my phone...

Eric

I know a captain that was on the 737 for 25 years and never heard the term guppy until this year. He doesn't get it. I realize the -500 looks like a "guppy" when compared to the 747, but what about all the 173 seat "guppies". I guess we should start calling the 757 a guppy too. ;)

Get used to it; it's not going anywhere.

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PG, How has the training been? Where are you going to be domiciled?

Good god man, if these guys get all hot and bothered over guppy, what will happen the first time we call one of their pilots a "bunkie" (international relief pilot).

LOL

Buy the way most UAL pilots have flown guppies, including me. It is the only Boeing I don't like, but I haven't flow a NG.

Anything else we can't say?

Just kidding guys.

Today is my last day in Houston. Its a long program...perhaps two full weeks longer than it needs to be. The pace was extremely slow and I'm definately ready to get out of dodge.

I start IOE next week in Newark. Obviously I will be watching for the opening of a DC base.

I'd like to have another 1000 73's on property, then we wouldn't have these threads about LOA 25 and alpa resignation etc..it's just a freaking airplane...who gives 2 chits what anyone calls it. I certainly don't.

This is why we are all doomed. Short sighted people like u who are willing to sacrifice the future of the pilots because both sides are opening bases in each others back yard.

Perfect. Thanks for sharing the disgust in your ranks for Guppy. Now I know what to say in response every time on the radio when it comes to "follow the..., give way to the.... or do you have the .... in sight." Feel free to call the Bus Fifi. Fingering Fifi is what we do all day long. And we like it!

Now that the voting is over, I emailed the manpower guy again about a timeline for a base is IAD. He says its probably 12-24 months away. It wasn't the answer I was hoping for...oh well.

For what fleet? The 737?

There already is a 757/767 base there.

And once there is SLI, baring any major fences, the current UAL fleets will be able to be bid by the CAL pilots , just like the CAL bases can be bid by the UAL pilots.

Yes...737 base in IAD.

This is what I'm most worried about. We've had a NY base for years, and no one wanted to be in IAH as we couldn't fill 767 FO there.

But I know a ton of guys that are going to jump into LAX and push me down the chain.

I don't think much is gonna happen in LAX anytime soon, at least according to the UA LAX Chief. We are maxed out on gate space, can't park the NG 37's on the 80 gates, and are basically in an uneasy 3 way market share even split with AA and DAL for the foreseeable future. All that means little growth which translates into few vacancies when the dust settles for guys to bid into, and the no bump/flush provision means things will probably be fairly static for awhile after sli.

It was a strategic error to let Alaska get the refurbed 60 gates, that was the only way for us to grow.

So bid the Airbus or the 767 if you want to get to IAD sooner.

I certainly will if my low seniority allows it. I wasn't sure how soon we could bid across from S-cal to s-UAL and vice versa. The guy in Houston I originally asked the question to implied that they would put the 737 in DC prior to SLI. I don't care what plane I sit reserve on...I just want to do it from home in MD.