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Originally Posted by Staller (Post 1426966)

You are one sad cal pilot - I don't know if it because you never made command or possibility just A/C Commander but whatever the reason you need to let it go. You have my support.

You are correct, Staller! I did not make any of those as I was a Navigator for a short 6 years, and looking back on it I would not change a thing. The shorter commitment and the timing of my exit paved the way for me to be here, not to mention the wife and kids and all the great friends along the way.

If you can't get over the fact that I don't support the mission (as millions of other Americans do not), you are the one with the problem.

BTW, I've heard all the Navigator jokes, unless you have a new one. I'll even let you tell them while you're pulling my gear...

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Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1427481)

Thank you for your service. And I mean that very sincerely.

No worries. Glad to do it. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 1427464)

As I have a few folks posting here on ignore, I am not reading all the posts. Thanks for posting that info. I am probably included in that law suit de facto since I've been on mil leave for a while. From what I read in USERRA, I got exactly what I was required to get by law. I think others read it differently, hence the suit. There is history here, I know, as we (CAL mil guys) had a law suit against the company about 2 years ago for violating federal law. The lawsuit was a push as no damages were awarded, but the company also had to change many of it's practices. I don't think they'll/we'll get anything in this case. It's up to ALPA whether they hold back money for this.

BTW, many of us took mil leave when they were furloughing to try and keep guys without that option on the property. They didn't officially count against the numbers, but when you drop a 4 year tour on them, they have to staff for your absence. I was not even close to furlough, but had the option and took it.

Again, I don't think this case will go any where as the distribution looked to me to be in accordance with the USERRA directives.

Hopefully that 4 year tour allowed you accumulate enough points for a full retirement.

Also - a very sincere thank you for your service.

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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 1427871)

No worries. Glad to do it. Thanks.

Hurry back, a Dook hater is always needed in the fold. ;)

Thanks for the nice words. I'm counting the days to get back. Really looking forward to it. At Special- there's been way too much Dook love in this forum. You guys be kind to each other. Jeffys going to do his best to cause problems. Lets not take the hate out on one another. Life's too short to not enjoy the cockpit conversations.

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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 1428009)

Agree my friend. Be safe.

BTW Mark Duffer was the CAL ALPA mil rep before all of this and resigned ver all of this. Also, I have firsthand knowledge that DAL pilots on mil leave during their merger received a substantial bonus without working a day for their company. i believe that may be the basis for the law suit.

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Originally Posted by tmac3333 (Post 1428467)

Only problem with that is it will come out of the pockets of those who were here busting their butts under horrible work rules and conditions.

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Originally Posted by larryiah (Post 1428481)

Only problem with that is it will come out of the pockets of those who were here busting their butts under horrible work rules and conditions.

Woah, hold on. Based on reading the text from the SLI process, I understood that the CAL side didn't want improved work rules. They said so themselves... It was all good until the UAL side insisted on improved work rules that actually cost something (which UAL already had), which they (CALPA) are adamantly against. Because money is everything. Seriously, it's in the transcripts.

Scott

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Originally Posted by Scott Stoops (Post 1428502)

You guys need to quit acting like the CAL pilots are writing this stuff and putting words in the SLI committees mouth. We're not. But, here's a surprising fact: the CAL SLI committee is trying to get the best result for the CAL pilots. That's what we want them to do. Here's another surprising fact. The UAL committee is trying to get the best result for the UAL guys.:eek: I want them to do that too. It's their job. Why do people not get this. It's a bunch of LAWYERS arguing their cases. Lawyers lie, cheat, steal, and do whatever they need to do to prove their case. They are like criminals themselves. No offense to the criminals out there.

In all seriousness, let the committee's do their work. Quit reading the transcripts all day. It will drive you crazy. The list will be somewhere in the middle of the two proposals. Always is. That's why it goes to arbitration.

Cheers Stoops. I look forward to flying with you all in a few months when I get back. Hopefully, we can help make this airline into one of the best in the world. Though we're going to need help from management. :rolleyes: