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LeeMat 02-18-2013 06:42 AM

Dream(LAVA)Liner
 

Boeing readies short-term battery fix, facing uncertainty
Boeing will propose to the FAA some short-term solutions to get its 787s flying while it redesigns the batteries for the long run.

By Dominic Gates
Seattle Times aerospace reporter

Boeing will propose to regulators as early as this week a short-term fix to bolster the 787’s defenses in case of battery fires like those that have kept the jet grounded for the past month.

The goal is to get the planes flying passengers again, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the matter, while Boeing works on a comprehensive redesign of the lithium-ion battery system that could take nine months or more to implement.

The interim fix includes a heavy-duty titanium or steel containment box around the battery cells, and high-pressure evacuation tubes that, in the event of a battery fire, would vent any gases directly to the outside of the jet.

Well looks like the 330 minute ETOPS certification has been resolved with the above fix. 330 minutes is long enough time for the fires to VENT themselves out!

SoCalGuy 02-18-2013 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1355089)
Well looks like the 330 minute ETOPS certification has been resolved with the above fix. 330 minutes is long enough time for the fires to VENT themselves out!

Do you have a "link" for that article, or was that the extent of it??

oldmako 02-18-2013 09:41 AM

Sometimes I vent myself while flying.

LeeMat 02-18-2013 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 1355218)
Do you have a "link" for that article, or was that the extent of it??

Boeing readies short-term battery fix, facing uncertainty | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times

Lerxst 02-18-2013 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1355221)
Sometimes I vent myself while flying.

Study Reveals Why Pilots' Farts Can Be Dangerous
...BUT PASSENGERS' ARE FINE

By Matt Cantor, Newser Staff
Posted Feb 15, 2013 8:10 AM CST
STORY COMMENTS (44)


(NEWSER) – Need to pass gas on a plane? No worries—assuming you're a passenger, says an oddball new study. In fact, researchers encourage you to go right ahead: Pressure changes associated with flying do indeed make us more gassy, and holding it means potential indigestion and heartburn, AFP reports. If you're a pilot, however, you might want to think twice about letting one go. The "co-pilot may be affected by its odor, which ... reduces safety onboard the flight," the authors—five European gastroenterologists—say.

But it's a bit of a conundrum, since holding it in could result in the aforementioned unpleasant effects for the pilot. The study, published in the New Zealand Medical Journal, weighed in on other flatulence-related topics: It found, for instance, that women's farts are smellier than men's, and that sulfur is at the root of the bad smell. Researchers also discovered a hidden benefit to sitting in economy class: The textile seat covers absorb up to half a fart's smell; first-class leather seats offer no such advantage.


It's fine for passengers to fart on planes, a study says. (Shutterstock)

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floridavet Feb 17, 2013 7:55 AM CST
Once again, New Zealand cuts a straight path through the course of progress and brings us this extraordinary news that we just could not do without. This is right up there with the study about bovine flatulence destroying the ozone layer. Most likely these studies were done with a research grant on the taxpayers dime. C'mon, who among us hasn't squeezed one out on an airplane? Or in a crowded elevator? But they didn't mention the most dangerous kind, i.e., "Grand Pa farts," which literally make small children weep. ROFLMAO!
Rational.-Anarchist Feb 16, 2013 10:06 PM CST
This will give the TSA more to work with. Next "Tool" in their arsenal will be a fart smeller, or a smart feller, with the probability being whichever is cheapest to obtain.
charles116 Feb 16, 2013 7:12 PM CST

WARich 02-18-2013 10:40 AM

wow, the studies just get more fascinating as time goes by......I know that I've been impatiently awaiting the results to this one.........lol....

SoCalGuy 02-18-2013 02:29 PM

Thanks....

UAL T38 Phlyer 02-18-2013 03:59 PM

You heard it here first!
 
From a post I made Jan 28:


....If one of the other sub-types of Lithium battery were used (and I'm not an expert here, I just know there are many types), it could be contained in a steel box. (I think the original battery already is, from the pictures of the BOS aircraft). It should have its own pressurized-liquid suppression system. That would also mean a dedicated vent-tube to outside the hull in order to displace the air if the liquid was dispensed, then a valve to seal it when the containment box filled. The valve would also have to be a pressure-relief if the liquid boiled.....

HSLD 02-18-2013 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 1355432)
From a post I made Jan 28:


Apparently you are an expert!

texaspilot76 02-18-2013 04:19 PM

So, are all these United 787 crews just sitting at home getting paid while these airplanes are grounded? Must be nice.


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