New Hire Bases
 

Hello all, just trying to get a better idea of basing. I'm aware that CAL is hiring into their respective bases, but what about post SLI? Fences? I'm a west coast guy, so a junior SFO base is attractive, but I know that's a UAL base. QOL is a big factor and just looking for some input as an outsider, thanks.

We will know sometime towards the end of August as long as there are no hicups or snafus. And then someone might still sue after the award so don't wait thinking it's going to give you some magic insight as to where you can be based. Get in and then worry about it.

I'm wondering who exactly they are going to sue? And for what?

I can't imagine any judge wanting to overturn something that both unions and an arbitrator put together.

In any case, the lawsuit won't stop the list from being integrated. Just maybe the order at some point in the future, but that is very unlikely.

The isl will probably be done by end of summer this year. If someone or some group sues, the law of the land will still be the arbitrated ISL. And then even if the "someone or some group" wins that aforementioned lawsuit, the award will probably only be a monetary settlement not a complete re-working of the ISL. I would not hang out at Trans-Satans err I mean Trans-States waiting to apply until after all the dust has settled. It may be a while. In the meantime its only taking you longer to move up.

It worked for usair and with our disfunction, I'm not holding my breath. If its anything like our jcba timeline and post jcba issues, I don't see there not being an issue after the isl is published. I fully expect there to be.

Sure, but what argument? "My number got lowered"?

Guess what?! They are ALL going to get lower except 1 guy (or maybe a few at the top)

And how do they prove their case against all the data that both MECs that spent months if not years analyzing this.

Life isn't fair. Neither is business. Fairs are where people go and buy cotton candy.

The answers to your questions are:

No one knows the answers to these questions. It is impossible for us to predict where hiring will occur after SLI or what the outcome of the SLI will look like as regards to bases and fences. There is just no way to know. We are all going to get that education around the same time. All I can say to do is get hired while you can and enjoy the future.

Speaking of which... from today's CAL MEC Briefing:

Last today, as an update to the seniority list integration process, arbitration is scheduled to start on April 15 in Washington, D.C. Last week, the two merger committees worked with a mediator to try and find common ground and resolve issues. Our Merger Committee was prepared to complete the mediation process prior to arbitration, but learned yesterday that the UAL Merger Committee is not willing to continue mediation. While we were hopeful that mediation might produce some tangible results, the process continues on the same timeline. Withdrawal by the UAL Merger Committee will not slow the process down and we will, absent any serious curve balls, be ready to start the arbitration as scheduled in April.

Yeah, right. ;)

If anybody on either side had any expectations that this thing was going anywhere other than arbitration all along they need to have their head examined. Nonetheless, I'll give the CAL MEC credit for their attempted spin.

Exactly. They should have just skipped mediation and gone right to arbitration. Could have saved a few months of new hires.