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tkhayes90 04-11-2013 09:47 PM

Phase 6...start of trip
 
How many Capts do you think will meet their FOs 1 hr prior to push for planning purposes as phase 6 states?

Dave Fitzgerald 04-11-2013 09:57 PM

I'm looking forward to all the A320's doing a :45 report after the first leg, and getting Sabre flight plans done...

Dave Fitzgerald 04-11-2013 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by tkhayes90 (Post 1389423)
How many Capts do you think will meet their FOs 1 hr prior to push for planning purposes as phase 6 states?

Me, cause that's what the contract says. Enforce it, insist on it!

vspeed 04-11-2013 11:07 PM

The FOM says 'should' meet...not 'must'...I'll be there 1 hour prior as I have always done but I'm not waiting around for anyone...I'll be at Starbucks after 10 minutes in the FPA

EWRflyr 04-12-2013 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by vspeed (Post 1389436)
The FOM says 'should' meet...not 'must'...I'll be there 1 hour prior as I have always done but I'm not waiting around for anyone...I'll be at Starbucks after 10 minutes in the FPA

+1

Trip verification means you know you have a trip and you checked in for the thing. You are an adult so you know you have a responsibility to be there.

I'll show up, check my v-file, make sure iPad is updated, check pilot bulletins and then check paperwork/weather in E-Sign & Fly. After that I'll proceed to get the required body fuel (i.e. coffee) and get to the airplane. If the captain hasn't shown up by 30 minutes to go, I'll make a call to operations.

pilotgolfer 04-12-2013 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1389428)
Me, cause that's what the contract says. Enforce it, insist on it!

I thought it was in the FOM. The FOM has nothing to do with the contract.

Dave Fitzgerald 04-12-2013 06:59 AM

Well, Ok, you got me. I was tired and it was late.

However, even that is not that important any more. In SFO our Chief pilot and one of his asistants are saying, that the FOM and FM are just guide lines...don't really have to follow them to the letter.

Who'd a thought?

pilotgolfer 04-12-2013 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1389561)
Well, Ok, you got me.

However, even that is not that important any more. In SFO our Chief pilot and one of his asistants are saying, that the FOM and FM are just guide lines...don't really have to follow them to the letter.

Who'd a thought?

Dave,

I was saying that in jest. Obviously the contract must be enforced and the FOM is the source of the SOP (standard optional procedures...from my short stint at CAL). The CPOs seem to have very little credibility around here. My latest question is about something that was on CCS the other day. It said the implementation of the crew meals has been delayed and don not delay a flight working this issue. Is that not 100% false? Didn't ALPA just send out a blast mail that said they have not conceded anything wrt crew meals?

It goes along with the EWR CP interpreting the crew rest seats. I quit reading their propaganda.

SoCalGuy 04-12-2013 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1389564)
Dave,

I was saying that in jest. Obviously the contract must be enforced and the FOM is the source of the SOP (standard optional procedures...from my short stint at CAL). The CPOs seem to have very little credibility around here. My latest question is about something that was on CCS the other day. It said the implementation of the crew meals has been delayed and don not delay a flight working this issue. Is that not 100% false? Didn't ALPA just send out a blast mail that said they have not conceded anything wrt crew meals?

It goes along with the EWR CP interpreting the crew rest seats. I quit reading their propaganda.

FWIW.......

Off CAL's MEC Position Report (Friday, April 5th) regarding Crew Meals and UPA Implementation:

CREW MEALS
Consider using these four steps to ensure you have the appropriate crew meal/snacks onboard:
1. Check Section 4-A-2 to see if you/your crew are due a crew meal/snack
2. Check the Company spreadsheet to see what the Company intends to board
3. During the crew briefing, determine if what you are due per Section 4-A-2 is onboard
4. If an item is missing, purchase items through Buy on Board or in the terminal, and submit the expense for reimbursement. If there is a discrepancy between what is due and what is on board, document and submit with your expense report.

Note: In the case where you end up at altitude without your crew meal/snack, obtain the item at your destination and submit the receipt.

Staller 04-12-2013 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 1389680)
FWIW.......

Off CAL's MEC Position Report (Friday, April 5th) regarding Crew Meals and UPA Implementation:

CREW MEALS
Consider using these four steps to ensure you have the appropriate crew meal/snacks onboard:
1. Check Section 4-A-2 to see if you/your crew are due a crew meal/snack
2. Check the Company spreadsheet to see what the Company intends to board
3. During the crew briefing, determine if what you are due per Section 4-A-2 is onboard
4. If an item is missing, purchase items through Buy on Board or in the terminal, and submit the expense for reimbursement. If there is a discrepancy between what is due and what is on board, document and submit with your expense report.

Note: In the case where you end up at altitude without your crew meal/snack, obtain the item at your destination and submit the receipt.


SoCalGuy,

You come up this management stuff pretty quick. Are you a assistant cpo or something?

This is good for the cal side but UAL side, land and get your food!


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