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ewrbasedpilot 04-25-2013 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1397842)
You must really be impressed with yourself and a hoot to fly with! Love the caps.

Actually you might just be surprised. At the minimum I'm not on here constantly WHINING about a seniority list that hasn't even been constructed. .....................

LeeMat 04-25-2013 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1397763)
NEWS FLASH...

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Just to edit your post a bit, "We've been on PBS WITH BUILT IN WORK RULES for quite some time"

That is what will make some difference to the way that PBS has treated our CAL brothers over the years. But we shall see soon enough if there will be any improvements.

oldmako 04-25-2013 04:33 AM

Thanks for the cogent and articulate response.

ewrbasedpilot 04-25-2013 04:40 AM

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Sonny Crockett 04-25-2013 04:41 AM

This thread has really gone downhill fast.......!

ewrbasedpilot 04-25-2013 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1397845)
Just to edit your post a bit, "We've been on PBS WITH BUILT IN WORK RULES for quite some time"

That is what will make some difference to the way that PBS has treated our CAL brothers over the years. But we shall see soon enough if there will be any improvements.

Lee............I hope you're right..............but we haven't seen much as of yet. The problem with our PBS is it's so "unlogical" it defies common sense. You'll see what I mean soon enough..............

AxlF16 04-25-2013 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1397854)
Lee............I hope you're right..............but we haven't seen much as of yet. The problem with our PBS is it's so "unlogical" it defies common sense. You'll see what I mean soon enough..............

That explains the proposed ISL....you used Carmen to build it...

reCALcitrant 04-25-2013 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by LAX Pilot (Post 1397653)
Boxer, you are wise beyond your years....

Which is why the CAL position never age progressed the list so that we could see where people fall out in 5,10,15 years, etc.

Even if all the 25-40 year old CAL pilots were stapled to the bottom, all but 5 UAL pilots would have retired and those pilots will still all be widebody Captains for more years than they would have without a merger.....

If you say 777 Captain then this is true. But I think its a little disingenuous to say this as many of us 05 hires can hold 756 Captain on the last bid. It pays a blended rate on reserve. I'll agree that most of the wide body time will get plucked off for better pay. But, I was on this plane on reserve (by choice) since 05. Very easy living and I still flew the 76 quite a bit.

Please don't say it's because of our work rules. The junior captains at UAL are about the same seniority as CAL.

I don't mind the discussion and I appreciate guys like you that can keep it civil. So, I just wanted to point out the inaccuracy of saying we would hold wide body captain longer if you shuffled us to the bottom. It's just not accurate in many cases.

reCALcitrant 04-25-2013 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 1397861)
That explains the proposed ISL....you used Carmen to build it...

That's funny.

Sunvox 04-25-2013 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1397838)
Actually, I have SIX years and been a CAPTAIN for ALL of them. Never had to be a lowly FO! All our 2005 and up pilots are CAPTAINS!!!!! They'll PROLLY (nice word BTW) be senior to you............no they WILL be senior to you! How's that grab you?????? And if you think YOUR PBS is the same as ours you're in for a real shock....................:rolleyes: Geez dude, mellow out. You're really "not all that" like you think you are.


Uhmm, looks like some of your brothers think being a WB-FO is better than being a CAP. In fact in the illustrious class of '05 I count 439 pilots and 72 Caps. So looks like most people think life as a WB-FO is better. Gee what a shock? :rolleyes:

Turns out you lie on the internet to support your argument. I hope your MEC doesn't do the same.


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