Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   United (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/)
-   -   And so it begins (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/74585-so-begins.html)

APC225 04-29-2013 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Olecal (Post 1400206)
Blame Moak, blame ALPA, but of course don't blame 67% of your brethren that voted it in!!! Main reason why most CAL pilots voted NO...

Time to park another 737 fleet.

flybynuts 04-29-2013 01:52 PM

All I blame is the yes voters. This is why some are scared of the SLI an where it places them. I say time to eat your veggies.

Lerxst 04-29-2013 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by flybynuts (Post 1400210)
All I blame is the yes voters. This is why some are scared of the SLI an where it places them. I say time to eat your veggies.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

cadetdrivr 04-29-2013 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 1400191)
Why are WE buying these airplanes???

Because we've (UAL & CAL) always "bought" the RJs one way or the other. Either we bought the aircraft outright and leased it back to the regional, or we leased the aircraft ourselves and then sub-leased it, or we "co-signed" the lease agreements.

The regionals don't have the capital to buy RJs without a deal from the mothership. Nobody in the in their right mind will loan $$$ to a regional without a mainline deal in place.

El Gwopo 04-29-2013 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Olecal (Post 1400206)
Blame Moak, blame ALPA, but of course don't blame 67% of your brethren that voted it in!!! Main reason why most CAL pilots voted NO...

DING!!!
Exactly correct.

Ottopilot 04-29-2013 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Olecal (Post 1400206)
Blame Moak, blame ALPA, but of course don't blame 67% of your brethren that voted it in!!! Main reason why most CAL pilots voted NO...

Exactly. Blame everyone but those who had the vote! ALPA is not the problem, the "yes" voters are.

untied 04-29-2013 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Olecal (Post 1400206)
Blame Moak, blame ALPA, but of course don't blame 67% of your brethren that voted it in!!! Main reason why most CAL pilots voted NO...

I heard that 85% of CAL guys voted "yes" and the UAL guys majority "no" votes couldn't overcome it.

Has ALPA ever released the percentages from the two respective sides?

Shrek 04-29-2013 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 1400217)
Because we've (UAL & CAL) always "bought" the RJs one way or the other. Either we bought the aircraft outright and leased it back to the regional, or we leased the aircraft ourselves and then sub-leased it, or we "co-signed" the lease agreements.

The regionals don't have the capital to buy RJs without a deal from the mothership. Nobody in the in their right mind will loan $$$ to a regional without a mainline deal in place.

Ala Air Wisconsin back in the day?

Shrek 04-29-2013 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 1400243)
I heard that 85% of CAL guys voted "yes" and the UAL guys majority "no" votes couldn't overcome it.

Has ALPA ever released the percentages from the two respective sides?

Nope ......and they never will. Although I would LOVE to see it - no good would be gotten from it.

Let the 757 wide body pilots blame whoever they want if it makes them feel better.

flybynuts 04-29-2013 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 1400243)
I heard that 85% of CAL guys voted "yes" and the UAL guys majority "no" votes couldn't overcome it.

Has ALPA ever released the percentages from the two respective sides?

Not true at all. I believe you are mistaken or trying to start something. Breakdown did not go like that at all. I can post all kinda "I heard" but it would be irresponsible for me to do that based on everything that is going on at the company and union and truth needs to be the only thing put out for review and discussion. I should mention that I am just irritated that anything above 50 is coming but do realize that this may not be all bad. If done right it could reduce actual overall RJ positions here at United and that would be good. However, the economics will tempt mgmt to really figure out how to make it work.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:28 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands