Originally Posted by Ben Salley (Post 1435600)

Thanks for the honest reply ***. I agree with all of your sentiments, and feel the same way in most instances. The truth of the matter is that this merger has taken WAY too long. As a result, the potential for disunity has prevailed. We must make a conscious effort to thwart this venom.
I spoke with a friend of mine on the UAL MEC last week and we went tit for tat, in jest, on what wouldn't have happened had the company been serious about this merger two years ago. Things mentioned were:
-I would have never written my com piece
-The profit-sharing debacle wouldn't have occurred
-The UAL MEC would never have launched a grievance stating that all (both UAL and CAL) flying belonged to UAL
-The UAL MEC wouldn't have launched a grievance To block the CAL Pilot's IAH 787 base
-The MEC's would not have had to fight for an LOA to extend the UAL TPA protections for the UAL Pilots (passed by the CAL MEC unanimously, UAL MEC by majority)
-The UAL MEC would have been included in Bids 13-08, and 14-02. Ergo, they wouldn't be fighting to cancel my Pilots current bid awards on said bids
At the end of the day, I'm embarrassed by how we have treated each other. I'm also encouraged by talks with individual Pilots from both sides. Get a few blue suiters into a quorum and common sense seems to depart the fix. Get a few black-suiters together and witness the same phenomena.
We both have our beliefs about how things should work out. We've both seen each other's proposals. The only thing that keeps me sane is my commitment to accept the sli, then show up the next day and focus on our collective goals going forward.
My com, that offended many, needed to be said; if for no one else but me. I got it off my chest and can return to our core values. I'm gonna try to serve as best I can until I can't take anymore. I look forward to what both groups bring to the table. The UAL sli might set me back 7 years(last time I was 81% was 2006), but it will be what it will be.
No one posting on this forum had any input into the sli proposals, including me. As a result, I hold no contempt for any line Pilot.

Frats,
-Ben

Originally Posted by Staller (Post 1435981)

It appears the cal MEC or at least the people of HOUSTON have decided to start posturing for a combined MEC. I'm not sure of the true intent of this post but you can tell that there is an attempt to make UAL MEC the responsible party for the problems the two mec's have had/are having. Make one thing clear - if you look at the background of al the things listed in the post, the UAL MEC actions were in reaction to misguided deeds of the cal MEC and their mc.

Not to point the author out - he's a good guy. But he made some strong claims of losing a 7 years seniority if the UAL SLI proposal is accepted - would any of our cal brothers like to support his claim - APC225, a good neutral and capable, you want to chime in with a true assessment?

Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1436097)

People............please don't post seniority, bases, etc., for this troller. Staller uses this information for attacks, then tells you he has a big boat and that's ALL the information he'll provide, like that's really telling us about his employment. He won't say who he flies for (if he even does which is suspect among both pilot groups), what his seniority is, what he flies, etc. Please don't fall for his "I'm just wanting to know the facts" BS. I'm beginning to think he's a politician because he ALWAYS skirts the question with some snide remark about JP or how CAL has ruined his life.................... Nothing to see here folks, so move along....................:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1436097)

People............please don't post seniority, bases, etc., for this troller. Staller uses this information for attacks, then tells you he has a big boat and that's ALL the information he'll provide, like that's really telling us about his employment. He won't say who he flies for (if he even does which is suspect among both pilot groups), what his seniority is, what he flies, etc. Please don't fall for his "I'm just wanting to know the facts" BS. I'm beginning to think he's a politician because he ALWAYS skirts the question with some snide remark about JP or how CAL has ruined his life.................... Nothing to see here folks, so move along....................:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1436120)

You know what? You are absolutely right.
Answering a Staller post is like getting into a mud wrestling match with a hog. It serves no good purpose you'll both get muddy and hog likes it.

Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1436083)

7 years from what date?? Since LCAL conveniently decided that the ISL snapshot should be April 2013, I'm guessing his numbers are based on such. I'd like to hear how much he loses from the ACTUAL merger date in 2010. That's a much more relevant number.

PS, the LCAL proposal has me losing 11 years, so I'm not sure why I should feel apologetic?

Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1436097)

People............please don't post seniority, bases, etc., for this troller. Staller uses this information for attacks, then tells you he has a big boat and that's ALL the information he'll provide, like that's really telling us about his employment. He won't say who he flies for (if he even does which is suspect among both pilot groups), what his seniority is, what he flies, etc. Please don't fall for his "I'm just wanting to know the facts" BS. I'm beginning to think he's a politician because he ALWAYS skirts the question with some snide remark about JP or how CAL has ruined his life.................... Nothing to see here folks, so move along....................:rolleyes: