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Old 08-25-2013, 04:31 AM   #1  
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Default Legacy system help for the other team.

APC225 posted some good HELP info about CCS. Since both sides are going to use CCS and probably share some other systems/techniques, how about a new thread to ask questions and post answer for the soon to-be-combined team.

APC you want to paste your CCS help info? My MAC is 5 years old and my trackpad no wormy.

Please, no ISL bashing. It is almost over.
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:21 AM   #3  
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Everything in CCS is tracked, every button you push and every page you see can be traced back...
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Everything in CCS is tracked, every button you push and every page you see can be traced back...
FWIW, ditto for unimatic, Skynet, WorkingTogether, computers in ops, etc....

And I have assume that also includes the company issued iPad for everything considering the "security" software installed.

It's easy. Simply use UAL assets for work and nothing else.
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From a L-UAL perspective, the L-CAL CCS is a very good system, but the L-CAL school house did little if any instruction on how to fully use it.
The version L-UAL has L-UAL pilots using right now is nothing more than some poorly programed hyperlinks to L-UAL Skynet.

Thanks to APC and Probe for great thread!

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From a L-UAL perspective, the L-CAL CCS is a very good system, but the L-CAL school house did little if any instruction on how to fully use it.
The version L-UAL has L-UAL pilots using right now is nothing more than some poorly programed hyperlinks to L-UAL Skynet.

Thanks to APC and Probe for great thread!

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Yeah, you'll learn that out on the line. [famous line in CAL training regarding pretty much everything you want to know something about]
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:41 PM   #7  
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From a L-UAL perspective, the L-CAL CCS is a very good system, but the L-CAL school house did little if any instruction on how to fully use it.
The version L-UAL has L-UAL pilots using right now is nothing more than some poorly programed hyperlinks to L-UAL Skynet.

Thanks to APC and Probe for great thread!

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You forgot to mention the absolute worst design in the world. You'd think they wrote the code in 1991 when websites first started being used by people. Even the ALPA website is better than that.

I'm going to go into ops and see if a LCAL guy will demo CCS so at least I have seen it when I become forced to use it. I have EWR and IAH layovers on my next trip.
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Even the ALPA website is better than that.
Slight thread drift, but you can't be talking about the UAL MEC website being better? If whoever maintains the UAL MEC site survives the ISL we'll be taking a step back to the 1990's for our online communications.

Seriously, the UAL MEC site at alpa.org is one of the worst examples of an organizational site that I've seen. Is that a alpa staffer or volunteer that has the reigns on that thing?
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Slight thread drift, but you can't be talking about the UAL MEC website being better? If whoever maintains the UAL MEC site survives the ISL we'll be taking a step back to the 1990's for our online communications.

Seriously, the UAL MEC site at alpa.org is one of the worst examples of an organizational site that I've seen. Is that a alpa staffer or volunteer that has the reigns on that thing?
The only thing worse is the Air Force Portal. Both are non-intuitive, with search functions that are useless.
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You forgot to mention the absolute worst design in the world. You'd think they wrote the code in 1991 when websites first started being used by people. Even the ALPA website is better than that.

I'm going to go into ops and see if a LCAL guy will demo CCS so at least I have seen it when I become forced to use it. I have EWR and IAH layovers on my next trip.
Yes, it's a real Frankenstein. CCS was an overlay to a keystroke driven system. So it looks like windows but many links just go to these keystroke screens. Some screens propagate your info like the Pay Register which inserts your employee number automatically (after all, you just signed in so it knows who you are) but you go to Reserve Availability and you have to fill in five fields of personal info (that it already knows). Some links are newer like the the Trip Trading functions and are fairly intuitive to use while the Pay Claim link is downright kafkaesque and seems to be so intentionally to discourage its use.

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