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So you are saying the merger integration is going smoothly?
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 1531634)
My understanding based on one crew is that it's not just a Vol Fur but a cross over offer as well. Meaning they can leave or work for L-CAL but if they choose cross over they go to the bottom. In addition I am lead to believe this is the second cross over and the first group is already off reserve. Given that we have FAs with 25 years doing A/B reserve rotation I think this is scandalous but par for the course.
As far as reserve goes, the United FAs themselves put in place the system that has 25 year employees sitting rolling reserve. The CAL system is like our pilot reserve, it's bid by straight seniority. If you unlucky enough to be junior for a LONG time, you will sit reserve for a LONG time, it's not some CAL conspiracy. My guess is United knows the CAL FAs will take more productivity for more money so they are building up the CAL side. Soon the numbers will be such that the CAL FAs can outvote the UAL FAs. Ask the NWA FAs how that worked out for them at Delta. They lost their union. It's probably in their best interest to give in a few contract areas and get their contract done sooner rather than later. |
Originally Posted by Toddnel
(Post 1532139)
If you unlucky enough to be junior for a LONG time, you will sit reserve for a LONG time
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
(Post 1532149)
You mean like the 8000 and 9000 seniority number guppie cappies will be?
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
(Post 1532149)
You mean like the 8000 and 9000 seniority number guppie cappies will be?
Former Guppy Captain now Triple FO Todd |
Originally Posted by Toddnel
(Post 1532218)
One question I gotta ask... What is the deal with United's fetish with calling the 73 the Guppy? For the most part the only pilot group I have ever heard calling it that is United. Not to mention it seems like most take a great deal of pleasure is saying it as much as they possibly can. Not that I really care just wondering.
Former Guppy Captain now Triple FO Todd Its just what we called it. Why call the 777 the "Triple seven"? Why not the seven seven seven? We don't usually call the 747 the Whale. We call it the "400" because we used to have the 747-100 and 200 that were the "ropestart". Its certainly NOT an insult, but its amazing how many pilots get all upset when we call the airplane a guppy. I've never heard an airbus pilot get upset for falling the airbus "The Bus". |
Call it guppy if you want, no insult to me. Do you call your comforter at home a blanky? Your friend your buddy. Maybe your wife Mommy? These are obviously the pilots who like the name things. Meet Mr. Wiggly...ahhh never mind.
Who knows....whatever works for you. Naming things is childish, but we are talking about pilots. Carry on boys. |
Originally Posted by Jaded N Cynical
(Post 1532239)
Naming things is childish....
Ya... That's childish. No one would ever do that. Except pilots since the beginning of aviation. Every heard of the Enola Gay? |
Originally Posted by Jaded N Cynical
(Post 1532239)
Call it guppy if you want, no insult to me. Do you call your comforter at home a blanky? Your friend your buddy. Maybe your wife Mommy? These are obviously the pilots who like the name things. Meet Mr. Wiggly...ahhh never mind.
Who knows....whatever works for you. Naming things is childish, but we are talking about pilots. Carry on boys.
Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
(Post 1532253)
So calling an F-14 a Tomcat or an F-18 a Hornet.
Ya... That's childish. No one would ever do that. Except pilots since the beginning of aviation. Every heard of the Enola Gay? But....sometimes it just fits. |
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