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oldmako 01-17-2014 05:07 AM
Smart man that Hoss.

Justdoinmyjob 01-17-2014 07:25 AM
Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 1560993)
If all those 65+ grannies would all retire, then there wouldnt be any lay offs.
Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1561028)
And their cats would be happier........
If the company really wanted to get them to retire, they should have offered to cover cat food/litter costs and vet visits in the retirement benefits.

oldmako 01-17-2014 07:39 AM
The company stole their pension and gutted their retirement medical benefits. The amount of cash they (and we) will have to pony up after retirement for medical coverage alone is significant and is forecast to increase dramatically.

They simply can't afford to retire unless they have other income or wealth. And some wonder why the over 60 crowd didn't leave.

UAL T38 Phlyer 01-17-2014 07:57 AM
Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1561045)
I just want to meet the Librarian.
I've got an over-due book to turn in....

(I think that should have been hyphenated) :rolleyes:

jsled 01-17-2014 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1561168)
The company stole their pension and gutted their retirement medical benefits. The amount of cash they (and we) will have to pony up after retirement for medical coverage alone is significant and is forecast to increase dramatically.

They simply can't afford to retire unless they have other income or wealth. And some wonder why the over 60 crowd didn't leave.
While I don't necessarily disagree with being able to afford retirement...The PBGC benefit, while not even close to matching a pilot pension is darn close to matching an F/A pension, especially if they are over 65. And at 65, there is Medicare.

Toddnel 01-21-2014 12:22 PM
Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1560502)
Why did UAL Corp sign a contract that allowed them to be capped at 80 hours? Perhaps they saw some value in having a relatively well rested employee in the cabin? After all, they get to spend the whole flight as the face of the airline. If I were king of this joint, I would want them to be refreshed, valued, happy and incentivized."
Who are you talking about? I obviously have missed out on the happy ones.


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