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Privateer20 02-02-2014 04:16 AM

Cleveland hub closing...
 
Sorry for all my Cleveland peeps...hopefully we will keep a mainline domicile there.

United Airlines Drops Cleveland as Hub Airport - ABC News

JoeyMeatballs 02-02-2014 04:24 AM

Saddest part is all of the hardworking ground crews that will lose their job. CLE always had ground crews who took pride in their work and always did a great job.

LeeMat 02-02-2014 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Privateer20 (Post 1572489)
Sorry for all my Cleveland peeps...hopefully we will keep a mainline domicile there.

United Airlines Drops Cleveland as Hub Airport - ABC News

The official announcement from United says only express flights will be reduced. Mainline flights will remain along with Pilots and FA domiciles. This does not in any way minimizes the disruption that this reduction in flying will cause to other employee groups.

untied 02-02-2014 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1572494)
The official announcement from United says only express flights will be reduced. Mainline flights will remain along with Pilots and FA domiciles. This does not in any way minimizes the disruption that this reduction in flying will cause to other employee groups.

Yeah....but not too long ago they said that CLE was one of the most profitable stations.

I think we can all see where this is going.

SEA, CLE, and eventually DEN are toast.

APC225 02-02-2014 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1572494)
The official announcement from United says only express flights will be reduced. Mainline flights will remain along with Pilots and FA domiciles...

They're leaving the mainline crews so they can fly the 76 seater to be based there. ;)

Toddnel 02-02-2014 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 1572534)
Yeah....but not too long ago they said that CLE was one of the most profitable stations.

I think we can all see where this is going.

SEA, CLE, and eventually DEN are toast.

CLE makes no sense as a hub once the merger brought in ORD just like Memphis dropped once NWA merged with DAL. What does make sense is exactly what they are doing, keeping their high yield mainline routes for the Cleveland Clinic and other key businesses.

I'm guessing that one of the reasons that TK will eventually move to a new facility in ORD or IAH is because DEN simply won't have enough traffic in the long term future to get 12,000 pilots to training each year.

CousinEddie 02-03-2014 04:52 AM

Does CLE have many pilots that commute from small cities that would be looking at losing direct service? Just wondering if there are many pilots that will not have a direct flight commute option to CLE anymore.

jsled 02-03-2014 06:03 AM

Before ya'll get carried away with the DEN base closing notion....know that DEN has more mainline daily depts than LAX or IAD, and 5x as many as CLE. Denver has deathstar alliance 747 service to FRA and mainline 787 service to NRT. In 2012, UAL and the city of Denver worked out a deal to forgive 100M in debt (not a typo) if certain growth parameters are met. SWA threatened a lawsuit to stop that deal. DEN ain't going nowhere, SEA on the other hand....

JMHO,
Sled

Mach93 02-03-2014 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by CousinEddie (Post 1573094)
Does CLE have many pilots that commute from small cities that would be looking at losing direct service? Just wondering if there are many pilots that will not have a direct flight commute option to CLE anymore.

Commuting for me to CLE becomes non existent as of April. I will have to drive the 6.5 hours if I don't get to 757 school by then

oldmako 02-03-2014 07:26 AM

I'm looking forward to when they open Barnwell. ;)


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