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cadetdrivr 02-04-2014 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 1574374)
Would JB's Dave Barger be good enough for you?

Not even close.

Toddnel 02-04-2014 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 1574388)
Not even close.

Barger would be great for UAL. When he ran EWR, the place ran like a top. He is an operations guy

cadetdrivr 02-04-2014 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Toddnel (Post 1574414)
Barger would be great for UAL. When he ran EWR, the place ran like a top. He is an operations guy

Um, sure.

If I hadn't spent four years at JetBlue during furlough #1 I would have believed you. ;)

But....if the BOD wants to re-hire him as the EWR VP I'm all for it.

Coach67 02-05-2014 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Toddnel (Post 1572887)
For what it's worth.

Attarian is gone within in next couple of weeks. Performance under the FAR117 kickin and massive scheduling meltdown (yes, those stories about trips assigned to dead and retired pilots are true) were the key triggers. No word on replacement ...

Hear it was going to be Heppner or Jay Pos. Can't decide which one would be worse!

DontPickIt 02-07-2014 09:15 AM

I have forwarded ol' Frankie's resume. Lorenzo has even taught his sheep to do some cool tricks. If he's taught them how to screw their own, imagine what he can do with pilots!

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...ortune/12.html

See the photos and look carefully. PS, -PF Changs is on my "do not buy" list from now on. It's a Lorenzo investment. Didn't know that.

Monkeyfly 02-07-2014 11:11 AM

Says in the article he flies Continental to Spain. Really? That would not be wise, I hope I don't ever see him.

boxer6 02-07-2014 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 1576521)
Says in the article he flies Continental to Spain. Really? That would not be wise, I hope I don't ever see him.

You can gleen fron the article that it was written sometime in 2010 when it was still seperate flying. I can not imagine he views flying on the new UAL the same as old CAL.

sovt 02-07-2014 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by boxer6 (Post 1576655)
You can gleen fron the article that it was written sometime in 2010 when it was still seperate flying. I can not imagine he views flying on the new UAL the same as old CAL.

And how would that view be any different? He gets on the airplane, doesn't eat, doesn't drink and doesn't interact with the crew. In one case I know of the Captain refused to fly with Lorenzo on his aircraft. Lorenzo quietly got off.

Do you really think that he cares whether it's a LCAL or LUAL crew on board.

boxer6 02-07-2014 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by sovt (Post 1576679)
And how would that view be any different? He gets on the airplane, doesn't eat, doesn't drink and doesn't interact with the crew. In one case I know of the Captain refused to fly with Lorenzo on his aircraft. Lorenzo quietly got off.

Do you really think that he cares whether it's a LCAL or LUAL crew on board.

Mmm.. maybe he doesn't care. But he will think of it differently as his old CAL has morphed into something unrecognizable and mostly unfamiliar. It will simply not be the same experience for him. How he reacts to it is anybodys guess. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I based my perspective on the fact that for the last 30 years there was a HUGE contingent that owed their careers to him as opposed to a vast MAJORITY now who think of him,let us just say, differently. It's a psychological excercise in theoretics if that plays into his decision making matrix. You say no... I say it very
well may.

Toddnel 02-09-2014 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by boxer6 (Post 1576701)
Mmm.. maybe he doesn't care. But he will think of it differently as his old CAL has morphed into something unrecognizable and mostly unfamiliar. It will simply not be the same experience for him. How he reacts to it is anybodys guess. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I based my perspective on the fact that for the last 30 years there was a HUGE contingent that owed their careers to him as opposed to a vast MAJORITY now who think of him,let us just say, differently. It's a psychological excercise in theoretics if that plays into his decision making matrix. You say no... I say it very
well may.

Umm I'll give you a pass on this one because you are making your assumptions based only upon rumor and innuendo. Frank Lorenzo has no friends at the old CAL. Even the most die hard scab hated Lorenzo. He had death threats, food poisoned and captains walking off of airplanes. The problem is, the times have changed. You now lose your job or better yet get arrested.

For the past 30 years he has not dared to eat, drink nor interact with anyone on the airplane.

I look forward to watching the first interactions with this new polarized crew you speak of. I'm guessing the stance taken on this forum will be a bit stronger than the stance taken in person. Trust me Frank could care less.


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