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Old 02-24-2014 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon7
And if it is your first day of reserve you can't be scheduled till 1000L, unless they make verbal contact with you. So a first day of reserve pilot may have not flown at all but will not be called at all for the morning launches.
This isn't entirely true. Only true if you don't have a trip scheduled by 1800 the day prior. If they assign it before 1500 they don't have to contact you at all and it can most certainly be before 1000.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
This isn't entirely true. Only true if you don't have a trip scheduled by 1800 the day prior. If they assign it before 1500 they don't have to contact you at all and it can most certainly be before 1000.
Actually you are wrong. The current FAR 117 interpretation coupled with our outstanding IT mean that the company must have actual contact with you in order to assign you anything prior to 10 am on your first day of availability. So, if you don't answer your phone (which you don't have to do on your day off) they can't make positive contact with you, so they cannot account for the 1 minute of duty it took to get your schedule and allow you to report before 10am.

This is not a contractual issue but rather an FAA issue. ALPA communication on this came out right at the new year as the FAA informed UA that their plan for assigning trips on the day off and requiring a pilot to check his schedule meant that UA was going to have to document that as duty, which of course they couldn't do, so here we sit not having to work before 10 am on our first day on call!!
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Old 02-24-2014 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Glad it works for YOU. But it sucks for some of us who can and do use it to ameliorate the BS that sked tries to pull. There isn't an abundance of QOL left after our new hosetract, so even the little stuff matters. I used to have a love hate relationship with reserve. Now, its skewed firmly toward hate.

When the flying gets shifted perhaps you'll see it differently.
I wasn't trying to sound cocky with my post Mako. On the contrary, I meant I was tired of trying to aggressively pick up a trip and always be denied for one reason or another. I just wanted to try and get my 100 hours in. But if scheduling is to inept to figured out that I'll dequal soon, we'll so be it. I feel very fortunate that I can stay at home for reserve, knowing most guys/gals cannot.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
Actually you are wrong. The current FAR 117 interpretation coupled with our outstanding IT mean that the company must have actual contact with you in order to assign you anything prior to 10 am on your first day of availability. So, if you don't answer your phone (which you don't have to do on your day off) they can't make positive contact with you, so they cannot account for the 1 minute of duty it took to get your schedule and allow you to report before 10am.

This is not a contractual issue but rather an FAA issue. ALPA communication on this came out right at the new year as the FAA informed UA that their plan for assigning trips on the day off and requiring a pilot to check his schedule meant that UA was going to have to document that as duty, which of course they couldn't do, so here we sit not having to work before 10 am on our first day on call!!
Thank you. I stand corrected. I must be confused.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 06:07 PM
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Sorry about the caps. I'm just gun shy from hearing the SME's and BS that we heard as the TA was rolled out. Oh that will never happen....etc. It's happening.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01
I wasn't trying to sound cocky with my post Mako. On the contrary, I meant I was tired of trying to aggressively pick up a trip and always be denied for one reason or another. I just wanted to try and get my 100 hours in. But if scheduling is to inept to figured out that I'll dequal soon, we'll so be it. I feel very fortunate that I can stay at home for reserve, knowing most guys/gals cannot.
I barely made consolidation as well. It's never your responsibility to do someone else's job, but I understand wanting to put the best foot forward. Don't let ineptitude skew reality
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