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Toddnel 02-25-2014 09:29 AM

ALPA Legislative Update - Not Good
 
This just came through the pipeline. The turnout for this Call to Action is pathetic. Just like I posted on the other forum, this is the real problem, not some lawsuit about seniority. Seniority won't mean squat if we allow this type of operation to succeed.

Please contact your Congressmen and sign up for the Call to Action now.




C-5 Legislative Update

Fellow Council 5 pilots,

I wish I had good news to report concerning the DOT and the pending NAI application, but the reality is looking grim. Here are some important points:


DOT officials have given us the feedback that they are inclined to approve the application despite the language of the open skies agreement. They indicated that the extremely low ticket prices outweigh any labor concerns.


DOT approval is the final hurdle for NAI and could come as soon as two weeks from now.


Pilot participation numbers in this Call to Action are very low (under 15%)


Pilot volunteers are talking to members of Congress right now to educate them on this issue so we can use their influence to sway the DOT in our favor. These volunteers need you backing them up in the C2A!


Despite what they tell the press and government officials, NAI 787 pilot pay is about one half of the US rate.


This “flag of convenience” scheme destroyed over 95% of US maritime jobs a few decades ago.


NAIʼs founder and CEO, Bjorn Kjos is a former maritime lawyer.

Obviously this is a battle that we need to win as it is a Pandoraʼs Box situation. It is a pivotal moment that could haunt us for a long time. If you have added your voice to the fight, thank you. If you have not participated, here is the link. All you need is your zip code and email:

#denyNAI | Tell Obama to deny Norwegian Air Shuttle's application to fly into the US

Toddnel 02-25-2014 09:54 AM

Perhaps if I titled this thread "CAL pilots say UAL guys suck" it would get a better response!

CousinEddie 02-25-2014 10:13 AM

I agree with you Todd. I have noticed that very little attention was paid to this. My expectations of another BK filing down the road just went up a few notches. I guess we will just have to hope that NAS self-implodes. Not a good situation al all.

gettinbumped 02-25-2014 10:44 AM

Sad. It takes all of 3 seconds to sign this petition. Too much to ask?!

Toddnel 02-25-2014 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1589466)
Sad. It takes all of 3 seconds to sign this petition. Too much to ask?!

Kind of like $41 a month is too much to ask to be in the highest level of ALPA PAC giving.

I'm hoping NAS goes the way of the other low cost efforts to cross the pond.

nopac6 02-25-2014 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Toddnel (Post 1589484)
Kind of like $41 a month is too much to ask to be in the highest level of ALPA PAC giving.

I'm hoping NAS goes the way of the other low cost efforts to cross the pond.

I've checked with the last 6 guys I've flown with and not one of them had even heard of this effort. Discouraging to say the least.

northshore973 02-25-2014 11:08 AM

Unbelievable

ChrisJT6 02-25-2014 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Toddnel (Post 1589422)
Perhaps if I titled this thread "CAL pilots say UAL guys suck" it would get a better response!

Don't just sign up...sign up for every member in your extended family and forward to the rest of your friends.

Jaded N Cynical 02-25-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by nopac6 (Post 1589488)
I've checked with the last 6 guys I've flown with and not one of them had even heard of this effort. Discouraging to say the least.

I've found a similar sampling. Pathetic. I start now by asking before any brief, "How bad do you need this job?"

That seems to be an attention getter.

krudawg 02-25-2014 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Toddnel (Post 1589402)
This just came through the pipeline. The turnout for this Call to Action is pathetic. Just like I posted on the other forum, this is the real problem, not some lawsuit about seniority. Seniority won't mean squat if we allow this type of operation to succeed.

Please contact your Congressmen and sign up for the Call to Action now.




C-5 Legislative Update

Fellow Council 5 pilots,



I wish I had good news to report concerning the DOT and the pending NAI application, but the reality is looking grim. Here are some important points:


DOT officials have given us the feedback that they are inclined to approve the application despite the language of the open skies agreement. They indicated that the extremely low ticket prices outweigh any labor concerns.


DOT approval is the final hurdle for NAI and could come as soon as two weeks from now.


Pilot participation numbers in this Call to Action are very low (under 15%)


Pilot volunteers are talking to members of Congress right now to educate them on this issue so we can use their influence to sway the DOT in our favor. These volunteers need you backing them up in the C2A!


Despite what they tell the press and government officials, NAI 787 pilot pay is about one half of the US rate.


This “flag of convenience” scheme destroyed over 95% of US maritime jobs a few decades ago.


NAIʼs founder and CEO, Bjorn Kjos is a former maritime lawyer.

Obviously this is a battle that we need to win as it is a Pandoraʼs Box situation. It is a pivotal moment that could haunt us for a long time. If you have added your voice to the fight, thank you. If you have not participated, here is the link. All you need is your zip code and email:

#denyNAI | Tell Obama to deny Norwegian Air Shuttle's application to fly into the US

If this goes thru, I personally will NEVER vote for another Democrat! Ever!


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