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Privateer20 02-26-2014 06:06 PM

Trip trade shenanigans
 
The ability to massage my schedule has left with my golf game.
Yet again, trying to move a trip back 1 day (still over the weekend)... 3 day for a 3 day. Seniority system denying the trade for "no coverage". I check the "reserve availability" tab...27 reserves! Thats almost twice the number previously required under our old system. Total BS. This trade will also get me a landing, precluding the need for the company to pay me 7 hrs to do a DEN loopty doo. Emailed chief, submitting another PDR and contacting rep again..... This place is a mess, but hey we will have a new contract by 2020!

krudawg 02-26-2014 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Privateer20 (Post 1590841)
The ability to massage my schedule has left with my golf game.
Yet again, trying to move a trip back 1 day (still over the weekend)... 3 day for a 3 day. Seniority system denying the trade for "no coverage". I check the "reserve availability" tab...27 reserves! Thats almost twice the number previously required under our old system. Total BS. This trade will also get me a landing, precluding the need for the company to pay me 7 hrs to do a DEN loopty doo. Emailed chief, submitting another PDR and contacting rep again..... This place is a mess, but hey we will have a new contract by 2020!

I'll second that motion

Toddnel 02-27-2014 04:11 AM

No coverage until further notice I guess. I too tried to turn a four day into a three day in the middle of the week, no luck.

gettinbumped 02-27-2014 06:11 AM

Welcome to United! It's been that way for LUAL for YEARS. What's more, since all Real Time Trip Trades are subject to crew desk approval, you can pretty much assume that your ONLY hope of trip trading is the same or better number of days, same start date, before about 7am the day prior to the trip, AND you'd better be senior.

Toddnel 02-27-2014 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1591104)
Welcome to United! It's been that way for LUAL for YEARS. What's more, since all Real Time Trip Trades are subject to crew desk approval, you can pretty much assume that your ONLY hope of trip trading is the same or better number of days, same start date, before about 7am the day prior to the trip, AND you'd better be senior.

For the most part coverage was always bad on weekends at CAL but you could see the coverage and know before you even got your hopes up. Usually midweek single day coverage was good enough but no longer.

oldmako 02-27-2014 07:27 AM

So let's all pitch in and help out when they're in a bind??

mccurtool 02-27-2014 07:32 AM

Trip trade shenanigans
 
Could someone explain why the Pool Display screen that did show coverage under l-Cal system had to be removed. The answer provided by the Union two months ago seemed like a cop out. I understand we're technically challenged in the IT department, but to have zero transparency with regards to coverage levels is unacceptable.

pilot64golfer 02-27-2014 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1591104)
Welcome to United! It's been that way for LUAL for YEARS. What's more, since all Real Time Trip Trades are subject to crew desk approval, you can pretty much assume that your ONLY hope of trip trading is the same or better number of days, same start date, before about 7am the day prior to the trip, AND you'd better be senior.

So much for the "LUAL was overstaffed" theory.

When the company won't let pilots drop trips because they don't have enough manpower, or are worried about enough manpower, they aren't overstaffed.

gettinbumped 02-27-2014 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1591183)
So much for the "LUAL was overstaffed" theory.

When the company won't let pilots drop trips because they don't have enough manpower, or are worried about enough manpower, they aren't overstaffed.

Perhaps. But honestly I think the number could be 100 reserves available with nothing open and they wouldn't allow a drop

Toddnel 02-27-2014 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1591162)
So let's all pitch in and help out when they're in a bind??

Of course in theory then they would need less reserves and we could drop days! :D

(I am merely kidding)


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